“You Will Hear of Wars and Rumors of Wars” – But What Happens AFTER? | The Destined Conclusion

While our world seems to be heading into a pit of despair and chaos – there is redemption.

While things around us may seem “doom and gloom” and hopeless, I would like to remind the readers of what’s inevitably to happen.

Many of us who have read/studied the Bible may be familiar with this verse:

“You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.Matthew 24:6

And certainly we can see (hear) that happening all around us, especially with the advent of “news” media and the internet – spreading mis/dis/information far and wide to every country imaginable.

And with the press being largely bought and paid for, at least in the mainstream front, we are only told what “they” want us to know – whether it is factually correct or not.

However, what “they” of course won’t focus on, is the light at the end of the tunnel.

That’s where this post comes in.

The Silver Lining

So yes, we will have wars and news of wars, we will have troubles and tribulations, but what comes after all of that? What does the future hold?

Well, for those who remain faithful and devoted to Jesus Christ and His teachings, who have repented and live as divinely inspired as possible – who have learned to live humbly and love their neighbors (and enemies) – a whole different world is waiting.

The collection below is a brief compilation of some glimpses of what will happen (or perhaps is already happening in some instances) and what it ultimately leads to. While most of these are anecdotal accounts, I have added in some biblical references that does, indeed, lend credence to these visions.

Though please keep in mind, I cannot attest to everything that these near death experiencers are relating – if they are embellishing or completely making up their visions, etc. (I would also like to point out the matter of discernment – since I do believe that some people will take this opportunity to push false doctrines – or fall into deception by beings that can “masquerade as an angel of light“.) I offer them here as testimonial accounts to consider – and I by no means am going to say straight out that it didn’t happen. I have had my own experiences that I couldn’t explain and that is what led me to finding the Bible/Jesus Christ in the first place, as well as finding out about near death experiences that have received the same messages.

They are eerily similar – and it boils down to one, extremely important thing: unconditional love.

While Jesus Christ’s reign WILL happen, how we get there is another matter. Can we get there without so much pain and suffering? Will we wake up and change and prepare ourselves and others for His arrival? Or will we continue to plunder ourselves deeper into despair and chaos and violence?

Nicole Dron

“How did you love?”

“What did you do to help others?”

“I was shown that we were at a crossroads. I experienced this in 1968. I was told there would be an unemployment growth that would spread across the globe. Everything was flourishing at the time. I was told about a plague that would spread all over the world. And I was shown everything that could happen on Earth if we didn’t change — and this ‘if” is of critical importance. It’s our piece of freedom in a way. I was shown that things are unfortunately happening these days, as earthquakes, environmental issues, tsunamis, etc. But what I saw, and what worries me the most, is the emergence of unbelievable violence. This violence scared me. We are all somehow responsible for it.

Near-Death Experiences That Predict The End Of The World

Angela Williams

“I remember asking God, ‘How does this end?’ You know what I mean? ‘Is everything going to be okay?’ I had that curiosity. And the light parted and I was shown Earth from above and I saw these silver streaks coming off of Earth… I knew God was showing me peace on Earth… He was showing me and telling me at the same time, and I don’t know how to explain that, but that was one thing that was so prevalent… it’s like the past, present and future is all happening at the same time… When I looked at Earth, I immediately knew that it was peace on Earth that I was looking at, but I [also] knew that it was in the future and it was not in my lifetime. God told me that. He was showing me, yes, it does happen, there is going to be peace on Earth. But I immediately knew it was not in my lifetime.

Near-Death Experiences That Predict The End Of The World

Reinee Pasarow

“The vision of the future I received during my near-death experience was one of tremendous upheaval in the world as a result of our general ignorance of TRUE reality. The ultimate reality is our spiritual reality — that constant, lasting, abiding reality that doesn’t change with the whims, fancies, and vicissitudes of the human world. I was informed that humanity was breaking the laws of the universe, and as a result of this would suffer. The suffering was not due to vengeance of an indignant God, but rather like the pain one might suffer as a result of arrogantly defying the law of gravity. It was to be an inevitable, educational cleansing of the Earth that would creep up upon its inhabitants, who would try to hide blindly in the institutions of politics, science, and religion. Humanity, I was told, was consumed by the cancers of arrogance, materialism, racism, selfishness, greed, chauvinism, and separatist thinking. I saw sense turning to nonsense, and calamity, in the end, turning to providence.

“With this destruction came the destruction of our physical environment, because we were totally unaware of our impact upon physical reality. Along with this great polarization and division among the people, I also saw a great breakdown in love, and that brought a great breakdown of our natural systems. First a hole appeared in the sky, and then the sky broke. The earth began to fracture, to break apart, reflecting the polarization and breaking apart of human society. The sky, and then the earth, broke and shattered as a result of our toxic and polluted hearts. Love is so VERY CRITICAL to our wellbeing as a people, and a lack of it only brings destruction.

“At the end of this general period of transition, humanity was to be ‘born anew’ with a new sense of our place in the universe. The birth process, however, as in all kingdoms, was exquisitely painful. Humanity would emerge humbled yet educated, peaceful, and, at last, unified.

Near-Death Experiences That Predict The End Of The World

Howard Storm

” – Jesus showed me a future in 200 years which was like a paradise. I figured he was serious about that. I did ask him how we’re going to get there and he said, “One of two ways.” I said, “Well, tell me how we’re going to do it.” He said, “The way God wants is for people to come to God and to be kinder and more loving. Of course much more respectful of the planet and of each other and it’ll come about very rapidly… because God is really unhappy with what we are doing with each other and the planet.”

Near-Death Experiences That Predict The End Of The World

Continuing with more of Howard Storm’s revelations, are some excerpts from the following site:

Howard Storm

“When I spoke with them about the future, and this might sound like a cop-out on my part, they made clear to me that we have free will.

If we change the way we are, then we can change the future which they showed me. They showed me a view of the future, at the time of my experience, based upon how we in the United States were behaving at that time. It was a future in which a massive worldwide depression would occur. If we were to change our behavior, however, then the future would be different.

“My friends explained, quite clearly, that all it takes to make a change was one person. One person, trying, and then because of that, another person changing for the better. They said that the only way to change the world was to begin with one person. One will become two, which will become three, and so on. That’s the only way to affect a major change.”

Howard Storm’s Near-Death Experience

Howard Storm

The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.

And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.

There was this enormous sense of trust and mutual respect. If a person, in this view of the future, became disturbed, then the community of people all cared about the disturbed person falling away from the harmony of the group. Spiritually, through prayer and love, the others would elevate the afflicted person.

What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.

People, in unison, could control the climate of the planet through prayer. Everybody would work with mutual trust and the people would call the rain, when needed, and the sun to shine.

Animals lived with people, in harmony.

People, in this best of all worlds, weren’t interested in knowledge; they were interested in wisdom. This was because they were in a position where anything they needed to know, in the knowledge category, they could receive simply through prayer. Everything, to them, was solvable. They could do anything they wanted to do.

In this future, people had no wanderlust, because they could, spiritually, communicate with everyone else in the world. There was no need to go elsewhere. They were so engrossed with where they were and the people around them that they didn’t have to go on vacation. Vacation from what? They were completely fulfilled and happy.

Death, in this world, was a time when the individual had experienced everything that he or she needed to experience. To die meant to lie down and let go; then the spirit would rise up, and the community would gather around. There would be a great rejoicing, because they all had insight into the heavenly realm, and the spirit would join with the angels that came down to meet it. They could see the spirit leave and knew that it was time for the spirit to move on; it had outgrown the need for growth in this world. Individuals who died had achieved all they were capable of in this world in terms of love, appreciation, understanding, and working in harmony with others.

The sense I got of this beautiful view of the world’s future was as a garden, God’s garden. And in this garden of the world, full of all beauty, were people. The people were born into this world to grow in their understanding of the Creator. Then to shed this skin, this shell, in the physical world, and to graduate and move up into heaven there, to have a more intimate and growing relationship with God.”

Howard Storm’s Near-Death Experience

Covering the same topic, is another retelling by Howard Storm of what the future holds:

Source: youtube | sunfellow | Howard Storm – The Future of the World

Howard Storm

“The world that they showed me in the near future, in a couple hundred years from now, is a world that is difficult for me to understand or accept. There was a – what I saw was no visible signs of technology. If there was technology they hid it from me. Or it was so subtle that I didn’t even – I couldn’t even see it. You know, maybe that’s the case. But I assume that like in the future it would be a world of like high technology, and they showed me a world of, not low technology, or no technology.

Where people’s relationship with God, with the creation, and with one another was so intense that human beings controlled the weather of the planet. Not just for the welfare of human beings but for the welfare of the entire planet.

Everybody in the world was telepathically connected to everybody else in the whole world.

People raised food by simply, I don’t know, meditating or thinking about the food and the food would just grow. Then they would pick it and eat it. I mean, it was, you know, not instantaneous, but just happened before your eyes. I mean, a cabbage would grow from a seed to a full-blown cabbage in a matter of a few minutes.

People lived in small communities. People could move from community to community freely if they wanted to. Most people didn’t move around very much. Some communities put an emphasis on music, some communities put an emphasis on science, some communities put an emphasis on celebration; liturgy, worship. Some communities spent their time on physical relaxation and enjoyment, sports, that sort of thing. Some communities were very contemplative and did seemingly very little. Some communities were very active and sort of like were very much engaged with their environment. Sort of what we would call gardeners. But they were literally environmental sculptures. Making these very beautiful places with the vegetation and the geology around them.

I mean, different communities had different emphasis, but they lived in total harmony with the flora and the fauna around them. In complete harmony with one another. And the main emphasis of every community was the individuals in the community and most especially the children.

When people had experienced what they felt was their full life experience, there would be a great celebration, and they would lay down and they would die. And their souls, their spirits, whatever, would be raised up to heaven. Dying was not seen as a sad thing, or grievous thing. It was a joyous time. It was like it was celebrated as a birth.

People ate simply, dressed simply. From what I was shown there were no possessions other than the clothes on their back and a few simple instruments, like musical instruments or tools and things like that, which were pretty much shared communally.

It was a world that’s very difficult for me to make any sense of it because it’s like, you know, there was great happiness, there was very little suffering, there was no disease because people could heal with laying on of hands, people could heal diseases, immediately.

The only real suffering that they showed me was sometimes people felt a sense of separateness, and the community would allow these people to feel that, but they would pray for that person. They would surround that person with love and bring that person back into the community. So it was – it was possible for people to move a little bit away from the spirit of the community, but they were brought back into the community. No one was left; no one was ever lost for very long. It was important sometimes for people to feel, you know, to appreciate what they had they needed to, you know, lose a little bit of it once in a while.

The Spirit of Christ lived in every heart. Fully and completely. It’s a world that is so complete. Unlike the world that we live in. That, just how can we ever get there. But they showed me that this was the world that God envisioned for us and it’s not that far away.”

I do want to make a distinction here because I fully understand how certain aspects of the above testimony sounds eerily similar to the “great reset” agenda: “you will own nothing and you will be happy.” However, one thing that is a major staple in the eyes of the luciferians/satanists, are their attempts to subvert/invert every Christ-like ideology into one of a twisted, corrupted version as a prideful way to undermine God’s Divine plan and replace His Holy works with their own wicked ambition. Perhaps that is one goal of these “globalists”, in order to place themselves as “God of the world.”

And some may be afraid or disenchanted by the prospect of ‘no technology’, and while I can understand that up to a certain point, I believe that a closer understanding of materialism and the technocrats’ agenda helps those of us who are growing closer to God/Jesus Christ be able to accept this notion without much of a problem; though admittedly this is just my opinion.

Now, to compare some of the above testimonies, I wanted to bring up the Russian prophet Vyacheslav Krasheninnikov, as well as specific verses of the Bible.

This future vision of a “paradise” on Earth certainly seems to be the inevitable conclusion – even if we have to go through hardships and catastrophes to get there. Although it is my firm belief that we have been warned, time and time again, to change our ways from a sinful, wicked way of life – to that of love and goodwill for our fellow humankind.

Whichever way we choose, the “evil” will lose, and the just and righteous, the “meek”, will inherit the Earth.

Valentina Krasheninnikova @1:46:45: He said our planet will be like heaven when our Lord Jesus Christ comes to it. Judging by his description of our planet in those days, it seems that heaven looks just like it. Slavochka said God will replant paradise, and God-loyal people will help Him to do it. Slavochka said our planet will be totally safe for the living, and people will change.

About heaven he said that when the human soul goes there, the first thing she sees is the fluttering beautiful green grass with flowers. He gave more details but didn’t let to disclose them to people.

Slavochka said the Lord will restore the Earth. His Angels will fill the deep sinkholes with soil. Slavochka said the Angels will be carrying huge layers of soil across the sky, and if a human had seen that, it would have seemed to him that the soil is flying across the sky by itself. So they will fill up the sinkholes, the ground will be leveled out, and the Earth will be very beautiful and gorgeous, but different, he said, and people will be different. It will be safe to live on the planet. The water will be cleaned. He said it will be so clear, that every pebble will be visible on the bottom.

People will have other qualities; we will no longer be like we are now. Slavochka said people will not need any transportation on this renewed planet; it will not be needed at all. People will be moving around somehow, I did not ask how, at a very high speed, and the communication we are using now, the multitude of words, will not be needed anymore. People will understand one another perhaps even without words. In general, the planet with God will be safe and very beautiful: the air will be clean, the Earth will be beautiful, there will be no illnesses, and man will stay with God forever. The planet, as I understood Slavochka, will become a paradise.

Russian Angel Youth Vyacheslav film 1 part 3

Valentina Krasheninnikova (Vyacheslav [Slavochka] ]Krasheninnikov’s mother) @2:08:00: “Well, as far as I understood Slavochka, when the Lord Jesus Christ comes to Earth, the planet will be completely devastated. Then it will be restored by those who have survived and remained without the mark of the beast. They will be restoring the Earth together with the Lord. It will be the same way as stated in the Scriptures, “And the LORD God planted a garden”, meaning together with the Lord Jesus Christ the survivors will be planting trees on Earth. Slavochka said that they will be growing very quickly. The planet will be cleaned up and it will be beautiful. The Earth will become a Paradise.

Russian Angel Youth Vyacheslav Film 2 part 2

Valentina Krasheninnikova  @1:37:55: “It’s impossible to stop or change anything. Everything is settled in Heaven.” There will be a lot of angels on Earth soon; afterwards, the Lord will come. It was an absolute reality for him. Present, past, and future coexisted for him. He was able to live simultaneously at all times.”

Russian Angel Youth Vyacheslav Film 2 part 4

And now for scripture references, we have the following:

“I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”John 16:33

“Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.”Revelation 11:15

“A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
The Spirit of the Lord will rest on him—
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of might,
the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of the Lord—
and he will delight in the fear of the Lord.

He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes,
or decide by what he hears with his ears;
but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
Righteousness will be his belt
and faithfulness the sash around his waist.

The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
The infant will play near the cobra’s den,
and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord
as the waters cover the sea.”
Isaiah 11:1-9

“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
Matthew 5:3-10

“Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!”Revelation 21:1-5

“But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.2 Peter 3:10-13

“Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.2 Peter 3:17-18

Will we see this in our lifetime? Some certainly do think so. However, we must always be reminded that: But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”Matthew 24:36

There is indeed a Light at the end of the tunnel. While we do not know how long it will take to get there, this is God’s plan for us which will end the suffering, end the wickedness and strife, end the horrors of abuse and corruption.
 
Now the question is whether we’re a part of that abusive, corrupt system or not, and if we decide to follow Jesus Christ and His teachings. Will we be prepared for when this mysterious time comes and be ready for the Divine Judgement? Be ready to enter this New Heaven on Earth?
 
Or will we mimic the unbelievers’ behavior in 2 Peters 3:3-4: Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised?and lose our place in this new blessed kingdom?

I pray every day and night for Jesus Christ to return. And I pray for our salvation and for people to turn away from their wicked deeds and turn to the one true Light.

“I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus1 Timothy 2:1-5

Much love and God bless.

Genesis 4: Cain and Abel

Earnest Examination

To start, I’ve realized that I have never read the Bible front to back, and so would like to remedy that. On some of my posts, I quote from the Bible, which I feel is a little insincere if I’m not going to study the whole Bible. So this is my chance to get closer to the Word and really understand the book that I occasionally quote from. 

Originally, I was going to start with the New Testament as a friend has advised me to do, since when I started on the Old Testament I kept getting hung up on what I saw at the time were contradictions, and baseless wickedness and corruption. It repelled me from the Bible. She mentioned that that is exactly why Jesus Christ came. To do away with the “old” ways and bring about a new, better way of living. Which is to love and care about one another. The reason the Old Testament is so important is so that we know the conditions of how the world used to be, before Jesus Christ arrived to show us a more peaceful and loving way to be. 

Now that I feel I may have a better understanding of this, I am compelled to start from “The Beginning“, both literally and figuratively. After having attempted Matthew 3, I realize that I am constantly having the urge to go back through the Bible to check references and names, etc. Since my desire is to take this one step at a time and build upon the knowledge based upon the timeline laid out before us in the Bible, I have decided to revisit the time I tried to read the Bible front to back, and see if my old views still stand. 

Make no mistake, I will still have questions and ponderings about why God decided to do the things He’s done (and of course more questions on top of that), but I have learned not to condemn or judge such actions since I do feel some things are beyond our understandings and it is not my place to judge. I will try my best to look at it from an unbiased and simply curious, thoughtful mind. 

To lay it out in a way that I can manage, I have highlighted the texts of verses that I either don’t understand or have a comment or question about in yellow. And the comments I’ve left beneath it will be of a smaller font and using brown text.

I would love it if you’d join me in this journey and if you have any insights and/or knowledge of these chapters/verses etc., please feel free to share with me and the other readers. Any chance to get a clearer understanding of the Bible and Jesus Christ would be welcomed with open arms.

All verses used are from biblestudytools.com (NIV) Genesis 4

Cain and Abel

1 Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth a man.”
2 Later she gave birth to his brother Abel. Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil.
3 In the course of time Cain brought some of the fruits of the soil as an offering to the LORD.
4 And Abel also brought an offering—fat portions from some of the firstborn of his flock. The LORD looked with favor on Abel and his offering,
5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.

When I first read these verses, I was thinking, for one, why would the Lord care about material offerings? Like sacrifices? To me, to my understanding at the time, God wouldn’t be swayed by materialistic offerings. After all, even without attempting to study the Bible, it’s known to not place your heart and desire onto material things. So it confused me as to why He was so pleased by the offering that Abel gave him. And was there any significance in sacrificing the “firstborn” of his flock?
My second thought was, “does God have favorites?”. I know, it might seem a bit juvenile or amateurish, but to claim that one understands exactly what’s going on in the thoughts of God or any others for that matter, is presumptuous and only speculation.

6 Then the LORD said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast?
7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”

So after trying to come to an understanding about why God would be accepting of Abel’s offering and not Cain’s, it seems as if the answer lies in the thoughts and the intention of those making the offering. Since Abel gave up his (presumably) prized firstborn of his flock with the hopes of honoring God, while Cain, it seems, merely offered up his crops (and not the best ones – but just some regular crops… I suppose), Cain was more doing it out of an obligation than out of sincerity.
So it seems what this boils down to, is that God knows what’s inside our hearts, and if we are doing the right thing rather than just pretending or “putting on a show”, if you will, then you will find favor with the Lord. Since God knew already that Cain did not have pure intentions, his offering was looked down upon as not worthy.
Again, these are merely my interpretations of things that I gather from further studying of other sources and commentary, as well as trying to glean understandings from the Bible, so if this is completely wrong, then please address this with me. I would appreciate it!

8 Now Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let’s go out to the field.” While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him.
Well, that was fast.
This reminds me of when you watch a show or a movie, and there’s something obviously edited out of the portion you just watched, and it confuses you and makes you wonder what part was missing. This is exactly how I feel during these verses. Now it could be because we don’t get a first-person view of Cain’s thought processes during all this, but just the mere fact that right after God told Cain that he should do what is right and that he must rule over sin, Cain commits murder right in the next verse. I don’t know about you, but this seems a little premature.
Right after God tells him that speech? What other details happened in between that time? If any of us are at all familiar with the Bible and other influences into how the Bible came to be about, we would know about the many, MANY books that were edited out of the final version. Could there be additional answers and information that fill in the dots throughout some of the Gnostic / Apocrypha, and perhaps other texts that have yet to be found or have been destroyed?

9 Then the LORD said to Cain, “Where is your brother Abel?” “I don’t know,” he replied. “Am I my brother’s keeper?”
10 The LORD said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.

It’s interesting to me that God asked Cain where Abel is, although the notion is that God already knows. So was God asking this of Cain as a way to test him? Either way, God would already know what Cain’s answer will be, so can I surmise that God involves Himself in pretenses and, like I mentioned in a previous chapter, participates in the role that He was destined to fill? Perhaps it’s because Cain does not know about God’s omniscience, and so God was indeed testing the heart of these people (even if He already knew) because these people did not already know that this is what is going on.
11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand.
12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.”
13 Cain said to the LORD, “My punishment is more than I can bear.
14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.”
15 But the LORD said to him, “Not so ; anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times over.” Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him.

I am confused about what Cain is describing as ‘the land’. Adam and Eve were already expelled from the Garden of Eden. To wander other parts of the Earth, I assumed. Now here is Cain, talking about being driven from the land, again, and being doomed to be a restless wanderer on the Earth. He says it like the part of land he did live in was separate than that of the Earth. Am I misunderstanding this verse or looking too much into it? Does it simply mean that he was driven out of one area of land into another?

Then we have God’s mercy on Cain even though Cain killed his brother allegedly right after God lectured him on doing the right thing. It seems as if Cain took the rebellious route anyway and latched on to his envy and pride and killed his brother knowing that it was wrong. Even while knowing the presence of the Almighty.

Think of it this way. Cain knew God and spoke with Him, literally offered up his crops to Him only to have his offerings rejected. But Cain knew His presence. Knew His existence. In today’s age, we have to have belief and faith and many of us have not seen God (that we know of) or spoken with Him, and we are still expected to stand for what’s right. Cain literally was in the presence of God and still sinned. How much harder would it be for the rest of us? (I am not condoning sinning just because we haven’t had the same situation as Cain and Abel, just pointing out how much more of a disadvantage those of us in today’s time would likely be compared to those in the Beginning.)
And again, even after Cain kills his own brother, God still shows mercy and protects Cain from being killed by any other.

16 So Cain went out from the LORD’s presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
Again, this verse alludes to the fact that the land in which Cain lived with his family was filled with God’s presence. I have already assumed that it’s not the Garden of Eden since Adam and Eve were expelled from there before Cain and Abel were even born. Is this correct? If so, am I to conclude that there are two different levels that the Adam and Eve family lived in before they came to Earth? The first being the Garden of Eden, for Adam and Eve. Then they were cast out of there onto a different land, but still within God’s presence, before Cain was expelled from this second place onto what we call Earth? Again, not all of the dots are filled and one can only theorize or speculate as to what these verses mean.
17 Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.
18 To Enoch was born Irad, and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael was the father of Methushael, and Methushael was the father of Lamech.
19 Lamech married two women, one named Adah and the other Zillah.
20 Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who live in tents and raise livestock.
21 His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the father of all who play stringed instruments and pipes.
22 Zillah also had a son, Tubal-Cain, who forged all kinds of tools out of bronze and iron. Tubal-Cain’s sister was Naamah.
23 Lamech said to his wives, “Adah and Zillah, listen to me; wives of Lamech, hear my words. I have killed a man for wounding me, a young man for injuring me.
24 If Cain is avenged seven times, then Lamech seventy-seven times.”

I decided to skip the verses above because most of those names I am unfamiliar with at this time. However, I wanted to point out that while Lamech killed someone for hurting him, are we to take this to mean that Lamech did this in self-defense? And is this why Lamech has a higher degree of being avenged? Because it was not a kill out of spite like that of Cain’s, but that of self defense? Also, if we want to get technical with the whole family line, then I am assuming that it was a family member that Lamech killed, since at the time, presumably, there are no other human beings on the planet besides Cain’s family (and Adam and Eve still in the different land that they live in – without anyone else since Cain killed his only other sibling). As a matter of fact, we are all related to each other if we all ultimately came from Adam and Eve.

For that matter, although this chapter briefly mentions genealogy, where did the two women that Lamech married come from? Again, I am assuming they came from within Cain’s own family line, so they’re all interbred with one another. We don’t get clear information on who Adah and Zillah are in relation to the others. And with that being said, where on Earth (no pun intended) did Cain’s wife come from?? What are we missing here? Did Adam and Eve have a daughter and this is who Cain married and had children with?
If this was the case, why does the Bible not expand upon this? Where is the information?

I want to mention, again, if one were to check out the Gnostic/Apocrypha texts, it starts to fill in holes that are left out of the Bible. What are we to make of this? Why were these texts not included if it provides more insight into what happened? Is there false information in these texts that are meant to mislead the reader? Or is there more truth in these texts that are deliberately being kept out? Or, as some people speculate, is the Bible a mixture of different religions/myths all rolled into one as an attempt at population control? The bottom line would be, what is the core message of the Bible and does it align with how we should be living on Earth? And the endless pursuit of Truth should lead us closer to the answers. (And as I’ve touched on “channeled material” and vibrations, if one takes consciousness and energy/vibration into account, does everything ultimately depend on our belief/thought system?)
25 Adam made love to his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, saying, “God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him.”
Nowhere is it mentioned that Adam and Eve gave birth to a daughter (yet). So again, I have to ask, where did Cain’s wife come from? She didn’t just fall out of the sky. (Or did she…?)
Now perhaps the Bible didn’t feel it necessary to mention the daughter(s) for one reason or another. Still, it is highly suspect and has to make one wonder why this wasn’t touched upon. Maybe it does in later verses, but as of now we are left in the dark as to this mystery. And the specific way as to how this particular verse alludes to Adam and Eve creating another child to replace Abel neglects to mention the possibility of any other children. Perhaps the significance of male children (son Seth to replace son Abel) was to be focused upon instead of the daughter(s) at this time.

26 Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh. At that time people began to call on the name of the LORD.

Although I am only 4 chapters into Genesis, I already have many questions and ponderings as to the missing information that I feel would help fill in some of the gaps. As it is now, I do further studies and research into the questions I have, and, as we’ll see later on in the chapter, some of those answers are, indeed, found. If one were to look at the Bible as a mystery novel (for example), there would be no other alternative but to continue reading to see if further revelations will be revealed. Likewise, I can’t expect to have all the answers laid out neatly in a line. So I feel as if reading through and conducting additional research helps.

And again I want to reiterate that some of my thoughts and theories may be way off base, and I also research some other things on the side as well to try and get a broader understanding of what I’m reading, so please bear with me, or, even better, if you have insights that bring more light to these verses, please let me know.

I enjoy bouncing off theories and theology off of each other and love to hear other people’s perspectives on things. Thank you for reading and I look forward to hearing from you!

Fact checking is extremely important. I want to reiterate not to take everything at face value; no matter what you read, where you read it from, or who you hear it from. And to be clear, do not rely on “fact checking” websites to give you accurate information either. These are just as likely, (if not even more likely…), to feed false information and false debunking accounts to manipulate the reader. Please take everything into consideration before adhering to a certain narrative – and always keep your mind open to other possibilities.

Fair use disclaimer: Some of the links from this article are provided from different sources/sites to give the reader extra information and cite the sources, but does not necessarily mean that I endorse the contents of the site itself. Additionally, I have tried to provide links to the contents that I used from other sites as an educational and/or entertainment means only; if you feel that any information deserves further citation or request to be clarified, please let me know through the contact page.

Genesis 3: The Fall

Earnest Examination

To start, I’ve realized that I have never read the Bible front to back, and so would like to remedy that. On some of my posts, I quote from the Bible, which I feel is a little insincere if I’m not going to study the whole Bible. So this is my chance to get closer to the Word and really understand the book that I occasionally quote from. 

Originally, I was going to start with the New Testament as a friend has advised me to do, since when I started on the Old Testament I kept getting hung up on what I saw at the time were contradictions, and baseless wickedness and corruption. It repelled me from the Bible. She mentioned that that is exactly why Jesus Christ came. To do away with the “old” ways and bring about a new, better way of living. Which is to love and care about one another. The reason the Old Testament is so important is so that we know the conditions of how the world used to be, before Jesus Christ arrived to show us a more peaceful and loving way to be. 

Now that I feel I may have a better understanding of this, I am compelled to start from “The Beginning“, both literally and figuratively. After having attempted Matthew 3, I realize that I am constantly having the urge to go back through the Bible to check references and names, etc. Since my desire is to take this one step at a time and build upon the knowledge based upon the timeline laid out before us in the Bible, I have decided to revisit the time I tried to read the Bible front to back, and see if my old views still stand. 

Make no mistake, I will still have questions and ponderings about why God decided to do the things He’s done (and of course more questions on top of that), but I have learned not to condemn or judge such actions since I do feel some things are beyond our understandings and it is not my place to judge. I will try my best to look at it from an unbiased and simply curious, thoughtful mind. 

To lay it out in a way that I can manage, I have highlighted the texts of verses that I either don’t understand or have a comment or question about in yellow. And the comments I’ve left beneath it will be of a smaller font and using brown text.

I would love it if you’d join me in this journey and if you have any insights and/or knowledge of these chapters/verses etc., please feel free to share with me and the other readers. Any chance to get a clearer understanding of the Bible and Jesus Christ would be welcomed with open arms.

All verses used are from biblestudytools.com (NIV) Genesis 3

The Fall

1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
So according to this verse, the serpent is referred to as a wild animal. “more crafty than any of the wild animals”. This verse is not alluding to the serpent being satan. In fact, no where in this whole chapter does it refer to the serpent being a devil. Or sent by the devil. Or being possessed by the devil. We are to assume that the serpent is just that, a snake from the animal kingdom.
Now, to get into this subject more fully, and of course, without ever really coming to a firm conclusion, it might be a good idea to keep in mind that in almost every single culture, there is a depiction of some kind of serpent or reptilian like creature.
Some different depictions across multiple different mythologies and beliefs are Jormungand (Norse, Celtic, etc.), Medusa/Hydra (Greek, Roman), Quetzalcoatl (Mesoamerican),  Apophis (Egypt), Naga (China, Hindu, Buddhism, etc.), Itzamna (Maya), – just to name a small few.
I don’t want to delve into the mythologies of other cultures too much, because it is something I can take a long time in, so please check out the names/links above for further information on those beings if you’d like (and there’s much more where that came from…).

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden,
3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”

Without further information on this event, I am assuming that Eve is perfectly okay with a serpent speaking to her. And she’s able to speak to it back. Was this so with all of the animals in the world? Were human beings and animals able to understand each other? Or, since Eve was still too naive to know the difference at this point, she just accepted that this was perfectly normal?
4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.
5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
So when I first started trying to read the Bible in full quite a few years back, this is when I start questioning the ommiscient/all-knowing aspect of the creator. God knows, already, that Eve will be tempted by the serpent, yes? God knows, already, the downward spiral that it will put the world into. To put it mildly, if we are to take the Bible’s account to heart, the first two human beings on the planet did not even make it out of the Garden of Eden without disobeying a command from God. And if God knew that this would happen, then obviously He allowed it.
Is it a matter of free-will? Predetermination? God’s plan? This early into the Bible it doesn’t mention free will yet. Actually, I am honestly not sure if the Bible mentions we have free will at all. I will have to keep reading to find out.
And I suppose since I am not knowledgeable enough on these matters, this topic alludes me still. I can’t understand the grasp of an all-knowing God, who commands Adam and Eve to not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, knowing that they will eat from it anyway. Why put the tree there in the first place?

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.
I will just chalk this up to Eve, in all her innocence and naivety, not “knowing” any better and choosing to listen to a serpent than the all-powerful God. And again, we don’t know the timeframe between when all this happened. How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden living blissfully unaware that there even was a division of “good” and “evil”? Could they have been committing “evil” acts this whole time and not be aware of it? Or was their innocence and virtue not tainted by such a thing as “evil” in the first place and they simply lived in peace and harmony with no knowledge that one could even do anything bad? Perhaps their hearts and minds were just carefree and happy, without sadness, worry, hate, anger, etc., etc.
7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
Now obviously these verses are not talking about our physical eyes, at least not in the sense of visually seeing our surroundings. It must be talking about a “conscious seeing”. They went throughout their whole life up to that point obviously seeing each other without being covered up, but because they had no knowledge that it was a “shameful” thing, they ignored it. They just didn’t “see” it like that. They were just like all of the animals. Completely naked from birth. Animals, babies and really small children, and those with certain disabilities, do not “see” these things either. They are not conscious of it.
8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
This verse describes God as physically walking in the Garden. It would be nice if we had some form of physical description here, but we do not. How tall was God, how old did He look, what was He clothed in? If nothing more, but to satisfy a curious mind. Of course, being God, He undoubtedly could appear in any form He wished.
9 But the LORD God called to the man, “Where are you?”
Again, God should already know this. And I’m sure He does. So is all of His actions just a pretense? Is He just playing along with the role that He was destined to fulfill?
10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”
11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”
12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
I want to mention how interesting it is that even though the Bible itself did not specify that the fruit was an apple, there is still many things in today’s culture that depict it as one. There is also many references to the apple being the fruit of temptation and also used as symbols or metaphors for different companies. The famous tech giant Apple has this symbol with a bite taken out of it, Snow White gets tempted to take a poisoned apple from the evil queen, there are also different beliefs associated with the apple as there were with the serpents in different cultures.

I also want to mention a “fun fact” (or a creepy one, actually…) that involves an AI program that Mike Sellers was working on for DARPA (which is scary in itself…).

AI cannibalism

In the early 2000s, Mike Sellers was working on social AI agents for DARPA. During one simulation, two AI agents named Adam and Eve were given a few basic skills. They knew how to eat, but not what to eat. When they tried to eat apples from a tree, they felt happy. When they tried to eat wood from the same tree they didn’t get any reward.

So far so good, right? Things started going haywire when another AI agent, Stan, was introduced. Adam and Eve learned associatively. Because Stan was hanging around when they were eating apples, the agents learned to associate Stan with both eating and the feeling of happiness.

Guess what happened next?

“At the time it was pretty horrifying as we realized what had happened,” writes Sellers. “In this AI architecture, we tried to put as few constraints on behaviors as possible… but we did put in a firm no cannibalism restriction after that: no matter how hungry they got, they would never eat each other again.”

Scary smart tech: 9 real times AI has given us the creeps

It also shouldn’t be lost on anyone that the other “agent” exposed to Adam and Eve was named “Stan” – just one letter short of “Satan”. Just one of many strange “coincidences” that DARPA has been involved in.
Moving on, I also want to mention that another reason why “apple” was referred to as being the fruit of the tree, could stem from the latin word “malum“, which the definitions include: bad/evil/apple.

13 Then the LORD God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, “Cursed are you above all livestock and all wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life.

It’s very odd that the serpent depicted in these verses, again, referred to as a wild animal like all the others, has more knowledge than Eve and Adam. However, most of us know that this serpent is the devil, but what’s interesting is that God seems to forsake the entire species due to this specific serpent. And because God curses the serpent to having to crawl on his belly the remainder of their life, we can assume that before this happened, the serpent had feet. Of course, in the majority of biblical art of the serpent tempting Eve, he is usually seen as a snake wrapped around the tree of knowledge.
15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”
16 To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”
Well, I can’t speak for other married women as I have never been married, but I do have a child. I can honestly say God is wrong in this manner because even if I were to be married, my desire would not be for my husband (sorry gentlemen, not an insult, just not the main thing on my heart) but my desire would be more for my child/ren and if it were to ever come to choosing a man over my child, well, the man will always be out of luck. So… God is wrong in this subject. Or I’m just an anomaly. Or perhaps this message was reserved for Eve alone, although the childbearing for the rest of women is certainly true.
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’ “Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.”
20 Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.
Looking at the origin of the word “Eve”, we can see that it means: Hebrew word חָוָה (chawah) meaning “to breathe” or the related word חָיָה (chayah) meaning “to live”. And, according to this verse, if we are to take the Bible literally, then all of us here are indeed brothers and sisters if we are all related and descendants from Eve.
21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them.
Skin from what?
22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
Again, I wonder about the timeframe of Adam and Eve’s stay in the Garden before they were expelled. Because according to this verse, it seems they have not yet eaten from the other tree that they could have chosen to eat and “live forever”. So how long did they live in the Garden? How many different trees did they eat from? Obviously we know that they ate from the tree of knowledge, but I take it that they have not eaten from the tree of life? It was, apparently, right next to the forbidden tree. What if they chose to eat from the tree of life first, and then the tree of knowledge? What would have happened then? And obviously there was quite a significant timeframe from when they first ate the forbidden fruit and their encounter with God since they had enough time to sew figs together to make coverings. What if between this time they would have already reached out and ate from the tree of life as well?
Too many “what ifs” I suppose, but I do have an inquiring mind and seek out answers in all manner of things.

23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken.
24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
So if we take this verse literally, God placed cherubim (not sure if this is singular or plural, as there is still debate about the different terminology used and the dates that they were used or transitioned from) just on the east side of the Garden (why only on one side? Wouldn’t He want it protected on all sides? Is there a reason why there is/are cherubim guarding just one side of it? Could it be that the entrance to the Garden is one entry-way only, and the other sides are all blocked off already to where no man or beast could break through?) and, as well as the cherubim guarding the east side, so is a flaming sword flashing back and forth. …
Are these visible to the naked-eye? Is it a spiritual force that only those with discerning eyes can see? Could it be astronomical? Such as a star or celestial being of some sort watching over and guarding the Garden? If the tree of life is so important and not for human food anymore, why doesn’t God just remove it from the Garden? He placed it in there, surely He can remove it. 

So the questions I have involve God’s omniscience, most of all, because He is the creator of all and knows all. In future chapters, we see references to the book of life and how God knows people before they were even in the womb, so it almost seems like the world is playing out in some kind of cosmic play. Ultimately, my belief is that Love always wins, so regardless of my questions and confusions, this is the path that I’ve set on.

And again I want to reiterate that some of my thoughts and theories may be way off base, and I also research some other things on the side as well to try and get a broader understanding of what I’m reading, so please bear with me, or, even better, if you have insights that bring more light to these verses, please let me know.

I enjoy bouncing off theories and theology off of each other and love to hear other people’s perspectives on things. Thank you for reading and I look forward to hearing from you!

Fact checking is extremely important. I want to reiterate not to take everything at face value; no matter what you read, where you read it from, or who you hear it from. And to be clear, do not rely on “fact checking” websites to give you accurate information either. These are just as likely, (if not even more likely…), to feed false information and false debunking accounts to manipulate the reader. Please take everything into consideration before adhering to a certain narrative – and always keep your mind open to other possibilities.

Fair use disclaimer: Some of the links from this article are provided from different sources/sites to give the reader extra information and cite the sources, but does not necessarily mean that I endorse the contents of the site itself. Additionally, I have tried to provide links to the contents that I used from other sites as an educational and/or entertainment means only; if you feel that any information deserves further citation or request to be clarified, please let me know through the contact page.