As more and more information comes out, even from the CDC, WHO, FDA, etc.’s own admission, it is getting harder and harder to refute the fact that the COVID vaccines are absolutely unnecessary and are, in fact, even more dangerous than “COVID” itself. There is no justifiable reason to continue this egregious mandatory farce, and those who keep endorsing this obvious malfeasance should absolutely be held complicit in these crimes.
The following interview expands upon the DoD documents which shows a trend that is now becoming common place (although HIGHLY condemned as “misinformation” at the beginning – though it is to be said, big tech and mainstream media is STILL labeling even information from the government and health agencies’ own websites as “misinformation”…) that shows that individuals who are fully vaccinated are more at risk for a “breakthrough infection”.
And keep in mind, as more data is coming out, showing that the COVID situation may have been pneumonia/flu, HCAP (healthcare associated pneumonia) all along (perhaps even brought about due to an organized experimental campaign) , disguised as a “new virus”, the vaccines themselves, therefore, are causing these legitimate various illnesses and diseases amongst those who have taken it.
The below video is a full transcript of the interview between Attorney Thomas Renz and Mike Adams discussing the DoD/Humetrix documents that was revealed to Attorney Renz through a whistleblower account. Some embellishment has been added for emphasis.
Mike Adams: “Welcome to brighteon.tv. Mike Adams here. Today we’re going to be joined by attorney Thomas Renz from Renz Law.
He has breaking news about new aggregate data that was compiled by a branch, an artificial intelligence branch of the Department of Defense. It’s called the JAIC. It’s called Project Salus. And the aggregate data was brought in about 5.6 million medicare patients from a company called Humetrix, which runs the data analytics platform for medicare outcomes.
Now, this is bombshell information that obliterates the official narrative of Biden and Fauci, which falsely claims that we’re experiencing a pandemic of the “unvaccinated”. These data that you are about to see, we’re going to show you the slides, courtesy of Attorney Thomas Renz. These data blow that away. So stay with us, we’ll be right back with Thomas Renz. This is brighteon.tv.
All right, welcome back. Mike Adams here, thank you for joining me. We’re going to welcome Attorney Thomas Renz right now to the program.
Thomas, how are you doing today, sir? It’s great to have you on.”
Thomas Renz: “I’m – you know, I’m doing great, Mike. I really appreciate it.
Mike Adams: “Well, absolutely. Now, you have this bombshell document from the Department of Defense; I gave a little bit of an intro there, but you want to go ahead and tell us the big picture of what we’re looking at?
Thomas Renz: “Yeah, so, in my whistleblower stuff that we’ve been talking about a lot lately – we say that the fact that in the prior FDA presentation, they had said that, you know, they were going to monitor CMS for outcomes and for vaccine safety and things like that. Well, it turns out that that is correct, apparently. That is exactly what we did. They’ve monitored CMS.
So using that same CMS data that we’ve just broke a whole bunch of information on, the Department of Defense, through Humetrix, put out something on the 28th of September. At least, that’s the date on the front of this, talking about these vaccines. There’s just an immense amount of stuff in here, talking about how their effectiveness wanes over time. But probably the biggest and most important thing in here is this, and I’m going to read this, it’s a direct quote: “60% of hospitalized cases are breakthroughs” after the delta variant hit 90%, right? “71% of COVID cases are breakthroughs”, and then we get delta at 90%.”
Mike Adams: “And just, let me just, for the audience, “breakthrough” means someone was previously fully vaccinated, and essentially breakthrough means vaccine failure. That they were infected anyway.”
Thomas Renz: “Yeah, yeah. So when Biden and his crew are telling us that this is a problem with the unvaccinated, why are 60% of the break- of the hospitalized people who are fully vaccinated? 60% are FULLY VACCINATED, in the hospitals.
Now by the way, Mike, so within this document, it also makes really clear: until you are 14 days post full vaccination, you’re not counted. So what that means for the audience is, that if you got Pfizer or Moderna, you had to have both shots, if you had Janssen you only had to have the one, and then 14 days later. So if you only got one shot and got sick or got hospitalized, it doesn’t count. If you’ve had, you know, both shots but got sick within 14 days it doesn’t count. So still, despite all of that, we’re looking at a 60% hospitalization – 60% of the hospitalized cases. 60%!”
Mike Adams: “So… looking at slide 2, from this 17 slide set, I also want to bring attention to the summary, just to underscore what you just said, it outlines that the effectiveness of vaccines wanes over time. All the way out to 6 months, where a person who was previously vaccinated has a 2.5 times higher odds, they say – they use the word ‘odds’ – 2.5 times odds factor increase of being infected or hospitalized with COVID. So the vaccine actually makes outcomes worse over time.
And then the other bombshell from this, I think, though there are many, as you said, but one of them is that for, for those who are unvaccinated, their risk of infection and hospitalization is falling over time. Compared – even as delta is rising, the risk of unvaccinated people getting sick is falling, falling, falling, falling. So… wow! I mean, if these continue, look where it’s going.”
Thomas Renz: “Yeah, well, I mean, so if you look also on that second page, we got a couple of other really important things to look at there, right? So this statement, “Prior COVID-19 infection has a major protective effect” – MAJOR protective effect. That’s because as we all know, there is no stronger immunity than natural immunity. So once you’ve survived this, you’re golden.
The other thing is, is it’s kind of interesting, because, you know, this really, I think, is very demonstrative. And we don’t have all their data. But based on what I’m seeing, this is really showing the ADE, right? This is showing that, or at least providing indication based on the overall analysis of this, that the people who are getting the vaccine, you know, instead of this disease getting less dangerous and more contagious, as usual, for some people, particularly it looks like the people who have gotten it, it looks like it’s getting more dangerous.
And I mean, you know typically when this started out according to the curve and what they’re saying, you know, you had a really high death and hospitalization rate when COVID first came out. And then typically that drops off with any disease. Now, you’re seeing it really bumping back up. And there should – and it’s really a, you know, it looks very much like what we were all afraid of – that we’d have a massive ADE type situation going on this fall, where we had a stronger, more dangerous variant, especially for the people who went out and got the shot.”
Mike Adams: “Yeah, that – that’s exactly right. And by the way, I want to mention, it was slide 15 that I think you were referring to earlier; I’m looking at it now. It says 71% of COVID-19 cases are breakthroughs, in weeks after the delta variant became more than 90% of the detected variant. So, that’s critical to the record, guys, and we’re talking almost three-fourths of the hospitalizations are people who were vaccinated.”
Mike Adams (continued): “But there’s something else here, Thomas. The very last slide, this is another bombshell: the risk model for breakthrough hospitalization, in this slide, it talks about how Native Americans have the highest increase risk of hospitalization after vaccination, of any ethnic group. And then Hispanic is underneath that, and Black-Americans are further down the list, but think about it. You know, this is hitting Native Americans more than any other group, and yet nobody is warning the Native American community about what is effectively ADE from vaccines.”
Thomas Renz: “Well, and yeah, and I mean, so listen. These vaccines seem to have a disproportionate impact on certain minority communities. Now that’s not something that I’ve really been able to flesh out in a way where I can say, “Listen, we know this for sure.” And I haven’t got the experts, and I – you know I am, I don’t say it unless I can prove it. But I have heard numerous, numerous reports about the dangers these vaccines pose to the minority communities especially. It has to do with certain genetic differences – um, you know, I just don’t have, I don’t have enough to really go on record and say it for sure, but it sure does look like that.
But, luckily for us, I also just got a report, that in New York City, you know, one of the most vaccinated places in the universe, only 26% of African-Americans are vaccinated. If that’s true, good! Good! I said yesterday in an interview, I said, there’s not a whole lot of times in my life where Louis Farrakhan and I have been on the same page, but when it comes to this vaccine, we’re dead on there. So – “
Mike Adams: “Well yeah, exactly right. Louis Farrakhan, I also agree with his point on this particular issue. He’s absolutely correct. And he, among many people in different sectors of Black communities across America, he is nation of Islam, but there are many other different groups of course, they are recognizing that this appears to be a, in their view, a biological weapon targeting Blacks and Hispanics and basically people of dark skin. Now, from a medical science point of view, though, dark skin also blocks vitamin D production upon exposure to sunlight. So this could also be a vitamin D deficiency colliding with vaccine mortality or ADE problems. Perhaps vitamin D deficiency causes an exaggeration of ADE, but that’s just conjecture at this point. As you said, we don’t have supporting data, but it’s a plausible theory.
Thomas Renz: “Yeah, yeah. I would agree with you. And like I said, there’s just been something that’s been kind of very quietly kicked around amongst experts, and we just haven’t had anyone that’s done the proper studies to know. But you know, if I were, if I were a person of color, I would certainly want to know, you know, where are these studies? Why aren’t we looking at these numbers? You know? Where are they? So I’m hoping they come out.
But I mean, regardless of what they do, and regardless of ethnic issues, 60%. 60%. I mean, what more can you say? And, and – I mean, this is a disastrous number, and it’s an outright lie. This is from a weekly report, right. This is a weekly report. So just as we said last week on our whistleblower presentation, you know, this is something that they’re supposed to be getting briefed on regularly, which it appears that they are.
Biden, Fauci, all these guys – I mean you can see where they talk about they reference the CDC and different things, you know, graphs from CDC presentation, things like that throughout this. There is zero question these guys know this. They’re lying to the American people outright. This is a crooked marketing project for big pharma, big tech, big government, at the expense of American lives, and it’s got to stop.
This is it. This is smoking gun. You know, we had – we had the whistleblower stuff that’s on renz-law.com. You can look at that. This presentation’s going to be up there. How much evidence do we need to put out before someone’s held accountable for this?”
Mike Adams: “Well, that’s my next question to you. Would you support a call for the FDA withdrawing it’s emergency use authorization or so-called approval of these vaccines, based on these new data from the DoD’s artificial intelligence project? I mean, is this, you said it’s a smoking gun. Is it enough in your view to say, we’ve got to halt all the vaccines?”
Thomas Renz: “I don’t think there’s any question it’s enough. This is illegal from the start. From the start under the EUA rules, and the – actually the law for an EUA, there has to be a risk benefit analysis. Well, there was never – I mean, 1% absolute risk reduction was never enough to warrant authorizing something that had no long-term studies. Now, we not only have a 1% absolute risk reduction, but we have a very clear case of an increased danger.
I mean, go get the vaccine. You can get COVID again. Congratulations. You know. If you survive it, then you know, you’ll probably have stronger immunity, assuming that the vaccine hasn’t destroyed your immune system. You know, this is – there is literally no legal justification for this vaccine being available at all. Let alone the fact that they tried to prove a vaccine that isn’t even out yet. You know, that, that’s a whole ‘nother story.
But this has to be withdrawn. Fauci has to be charged criminally; he needs to be in jail and there needs to be RICO, RICO suits, and I’m going to do this right here, right now, Mike. I’m going to call – I want any attorneys that are willing to do so, I’m going to put a button up on my website that says, you know, now hiring/taking volunteers, something. I don’t know. I’ve never put a button up. And if you’re willing to volunteer, or to work, or whatever, if I’ve got funding I’ll pay you. But if you’re willing to help, I want to do a RICO case against the entire trusted news initiative for covering this up, because they’ve been bought off by pharma. RICO, the FDA, Fauci, all these people that is one giant criminal conspiracy. We need to sue their butts and they need to be in jail.”
Mike Adams: “Well I think many viewers would agree with your assessment, but – so you’re talking about organized crime, racketeering, this is um… it’s, it’s a pretty high standard of proof in order to prove such cases. The DOJ is unlikely to want to prosecute this because the DOJ is probably part of the organized criminal operation. Would – would you say that?”
Thomas Renz: “Yeah. But we can do a civil case. We could do a civil case. And I’m all on board for it. I just need to get some experts and RICO, because I’m not a RICO expert. I need to get some people who are willing to help fight this. Because we don’t have enough attorneys. But I think we need to file a major suit.
I mean, listen, we know this entire trusted news initiative has been bought off by Gates Foundation, by big pharma, by all these different groups. We know how that works. We got all sorts of evidence on it. We know that the FDA, the CDC, we know – we got, right here, rock-solid evidence. These guys know that they’re lying when they say it’s safe and effective. They know that we know that they’re lying when they’re pushing this out there.
I don’t know how it could be anything but fraud, and I think we need a massive lawsuit to the tune of probably trillions, to get back the – to get back the just a portion of the damage these people have done on the American economy, on the world economy, to the lives and families of these people. This is so outrageous it is beyond words. In history, in history, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything in the American world that compares with the lies we’re seeing here. It’s just horrific.
Mike Adams: “Since you’re bringing up history, many people have called for international tribunals. War crimes tribunals against some of the individuals and organizations that you just named. Is RICO even enough? Does this need to go to more of a Nuremberg level of investigation of potential prosecution?”
Thomas Renz: “Well, so legally that would require a buy-in from our political leaders, and since most of them should actually be charged, I’m not sure that they’re going to do that, but yeah, I mean, I certainly think that this is a war crimes type thing. There’s no question what’s happened. There is zero question.
At this point, you know, you could argue that you didn’t believe my whistleblower. Okay, fine. How about – how about a document with the stamp from the DoD on it? Do you believe that? I mean, what do we gotta do? This is their words. This is as smoking of a gun as you can get.
Yes. There should definitely be an international war crimes tribunals for this. This is absolutely a violation of the principles of Nuremberg. By the way, World War II, you know this Mike. You know, this started out by trying to paint the Jews as unclean. And putting them in ghettos and, you know, testing vaccinations on them. That’s where this all started. Now we got to stop this before we get anyone – it gets any – goes any – who knows where they’re going with this. What I do know is that we’re not going there.”
Mike Adams: “But that’s my next question. The vaccines have already been administered according to the CDC to over 200 million Americans. We see from the data that you’ve just shown us here, that the outcomes worsen over time. Since you can’t undo a vaccine, where is this going? What does this mean for people who got vaccinated and are now looking at these data and saying, “Woah! What happens in November? Or December? January?” What are we looking at here, really?”
Thomas Renz: “Well if – so early on, what I had suggested was that this was going to be something where you’re going to be stuck getting booster shots for the rest of your life or die. Now, I don’t know if that’s going to be the case or not, but what I do know, is the best I can do for those people right now is pray and hope that we can find a way to undo the genetic modifications that they’ve done to themselves.
Because, you know, I mean, listen, we also in that whistleblower presentation, we laid out, this is a gene therapy. This is changing your genetics. So, I don’t know how we undo that, but what I do know is you all have been experimented on, with a dangerous experiment, that it turns out is going really badly, or maybe just as planned. I don’t know. But what I do know is it looks like it’s a real bad thing. It looks like there’s more people and more danger every day, and – nobody wanted to believe us. When you and I, Mike, were talking about this early on, no one wanted to believe it. But now – “
Mike Adams: “But now, right. The data are clear. So, just to refocus people on this, this is from the JAIC, division of the DoD. The JAIC uses artificial intelligence algorithms to study things like COVID-19 induced supply line disruptions. So they are out there trying to pinpoint critical supply failures in the supply chaining, including for parts for the military itself. They then took that A.I. system and they applied it to this Humetrix data set of 5.6 million Medicare recipients and their health outcomes, and then they were able to spot these patterns and they put it all in chart form.
So, you know, one of the big astonishing things about this, Tom, and thank you for sharing this and coming on to comment about it is, aren’t the people who, who are looking at this, aren’t they freaking out too? I mean, within the DoD, surely they see what this is!”
Thomas Renz: “You know, that’s a great question. I got to be honest with you, Mike. It – listen. This looks – makes it look really clear that they’ve been looking at it for awhile. Right? I mean, when you look at this, it’s a weekly report. So it’s not like this is new information. It’s been out for awhile. It’s been clear where the trends are going.
I – you know, to me, I don’t know how you argue that this is, you know, what, you’re sitting on your hands? You know? Because, I don’t know. On one side we can give them the benefit of the doubt and say, “Well this was such a political disaster that they just didn’t know what to do with it.” or, on the other side, you could just say, “Listen, this was intentional.”
I don’t know what it is, but either way there’s a lot of people dying and going to die that don’t need to die. And by the way, they’re lying here, which they are. Obviously we got – I mean, their evidence; this is as good as it gets. If they’re lying here, what else are they lying about? You remember, you know, we’ve been pushing early treatment: Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, D, zinc, all these different things. Hey. We’ve got doctors with thousands of people that have been treated with this and not die. THOUSANDS!
They’re lying about that too. [editor’s note to clarify: The CDC, NIH, FDA, etc. is lying that Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine don’t work] And P.S., I think I got some more data that just came in not too long ago. I haven’t had time to analyze it yet, that will show exactly that. So just, stay tuned. We’ll have more. We’re not done.”
Mike Adams: “Okay. And just a little flashback to something that you recently put out, that you have a whistleblower who has access to the Medicare aggregate data system, that showed close to 50,000 – I think it was 48,000 something deaths following vaccination of Medicare tracked patients. When are you going to get new data on, from that database, potentially?”
Thomas Renz: “Well, I’ve got, I’ve got stuff that I’m sending over, and you can put that up today if you’d like. You know, we’ve got a breakdown of a bunch more states. So, I think we’ve got 8 or 9 states now, with all their side effects, right? And by the way, just to be clear, that data is from the same servers that these guys are pulling from. So, so you know, if you want to doubt me before, it seems like this is pretty good vindication for me.
You know, you can look at these numbers. We’ve got them broken down – I know we’ve got New York, I know we’ve got California, I know we’ve got Ohio, we’ve got Florida, Texas, Missouri…
And you know, listen, look at this data and ask yourself, what is your governor doing? Because your governor should have access to this. Now thankfully in Texas and Florida you guys have governors who have kind of stood up. But if the words ‘safe and effective’ come out of their mouth, you need to show them this data, you need to show them this stuff, and you need to say, “Who the hell bought you?” Because that’s the ONLY way they can say this with a straight face, is if they’ve been bought and paid for.
And I don’t care who you are, it is very clear, they have or should have access to CMS data. If they’re not getting that then they’re not doing their homework or their public health people are lying to them. But guess what. They can’t claim ignorance any more because we put it out there.”
Mike Adams: “All right, all right. Well said. We’ve only got less than 2 minutes remaining here. I want to remind our audience your law firm is at renz-law.com. That’s the correct url, right?”
Thomas Renz: “Yes sir. Yes sir. Please check us out there. Renz-law.com.
Mike Adams: “Okay, and what do you say to all the people right now who themselves are dealing with legal issues with hospitals abusing their family members, or denying access to family members to – I mean, this is happening everywhere. I’m sure you’re getting flooded with requests for help, right?”
Thomas Renz: “Yeah. More than you can imagine. I’m praying for you, I’m praying for your families; it’s devastating to see. We’re trying to get cases developed on this as quickly as possible. They’ve done a ton of stuff to try and make it hard to sue these guys. ‘Cause they knew they were going to use them as killing fields. But we’re going to – we’re going to make them pay at some point.”
Mike Adams: “Okay, that’s great to know. And you also said previously, you can’t wait to sue over and over again, all of those who are complicit in this. Which is the – parts of the so-called media and big tech as well.”
Thomas Renz: “They’re going down. I want you to please – we’re going to get that button up as soon as possible. We want everybody that’s willing and able, click on that, tell us what you’re willing to do; we need good good people who are willing to bust their butts researching and writing.”
Mike Adams: “Okay. All right. Well said. Thomas, thank you so much for joining me today. It’s – your work is really courageous; you are doing amazing things to help save lives in this country. Thank you so much for joining us.”
Thomas Renz: “Thank you.”
Mike Adams: “All right. For those of you watching, feel free to repost this video on any platform – the original source is brighteon.tv. You can also find this on my channel: email@example.com. Thank you for joining us today, and look for the article detailing this document at naturalnews.com. Thank you for joining us. God bless, take care.”
Note from Expanding Awareness Relations: As mentioned in the above interview, please visit the following links for more detailed information including more slides from the DoD documents and for additional Mike Adams videos:
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Thank you so much to Mike Adams and Thomas Renz for continuously bringing these important data and information to our attention. Your dedication and fortitude in standing strong against these tyrannical, unnecessary measures is incredibly needed and much appreciated during these perilous and unprecedented times.
And thank you to everyone who has stood up and spoken out against these nefarious agendas; and also thank you to everyone who is reading/watching and sharing these news to help get the word out about these corrupted organizations.