What is the Transubstantiation of the Eucharist?

Is it a form of cannibalism?

There’s been a lot of debate surrounding the transubstantiation of the eucharist, and if Catholics really believe that they’re eating the flesh of Jesus Christ, and literally drinking his blood.

The whole point (at least in some Catholic circles) of transubstantiation is to magically alter the regular piece of bread into Jesus Christ’s flesh, and the drink into His blood. To partake in and consume in order to have the life and spirit of Jesus Christ within us.

Hm… it sounds an awful lot like cannibalism to me. But to be fair, let’s take an in depth look into what actual Catholics and scholars believe is the meaning of this verse:

53 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you.
54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed.
56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me.
58 This is the bread which came down from heaven—not as your fathers ate the manna, and are dead. He who eats this bread will live forever.”
John 6:53-58

“So, what did Jesus mean when he spoke about eating his flesh and drinking his blood? He certainly wasn’t talking about cannibalism!

He was talking about true religion. What Jesus meant is that it’s got to be personal. Jesus was saying that you don’t receive eternal life by understand concepts or by believing the right things, but instead by a personal and intimate relationship with him. Jesus must be to us more important than our very food and drink, and closer to us than the nourishment that courses through our body that helps us to live.”
What Does It Mean to Eat Christ’s Flesh and To Drink His Blood?

So according to the site above, they believe that the eucharist is meant to be taken symbolically, and ‘of course it’s not literal!’

Another insight into the belief that the transubstantiation is symbolic can be found here, as well as many other researched sites.

But further study and insight into this mysterious tradition does indeed show that many Catholics and practitioners of this ritual truly do believe that they are literally eating the body of Christ and drinking His blood.

And on average, according to several consensus studies, about 1 in 3 Catholics fully believe in the eucharist doctrine that the host transforms into the actual body/flesh and blood of Jesus Christ, while the other 2/3 believe that it is a symbolic, spiritual essence.

Results from the Pew Research Center: Understanding US Catholics’ belief in the Eucharist

There are even scientific studies declaring some rather unusual characteristics of these consecrated hosts that have undergone a transubstantiation process:

The video above shows several scientists/doctors/researchers who have studied the host’s transformation, and even hypothesizes the tools that would be necessary to replicate such a miracle:

– Odoardo Linoli
– Fredrick Zugibe
– Franco Serafini
– Jason DeGregorio
– Eduardo Sanchez Lazo

And as you can see, the full belief and trust in this miracle is alive and well by not only the creator of the video, but also many of the viewers who have left their own comments. And again, I am not bashing anyone for their beliefs. This is an attempt for me to truly understand these miracles and what may be happening. While I am a believer of Christ, I am also somewhat of a skeptic, especially when it comes to a process that involves the literal consumption of someone’s flesh and blood.

Some of the interesting similarities between the wafers discussed in the video are:

– They were revealed to be AB blood type
– The material derived seemed to have come from the left ventricle of the heart – while it was still alive
– The heart suffered massive trauma

(I don’t know about you… but this literally makes my own heart hurt and I can’t even imagine the circumstances that were involved in order to duplicate this kind of organic tissue result…)

While it may seem that these miracles are indeed mysterious and of a divine nature (or a terribly horrific one), I have to bring up a theory that some of the “host” wafers are not merely flour and water, like most people believe. I won’t get into the gritty details, but I will mention the possibilities that can arise between a religion that may be inclined to convince the public that miracles exist, with the combination of science and the capabilities of the technological age that are quite advanced at creating fabulous “signs and wonders” that the layman may not have even dreamed possible.

(And the insane amount of effort and length that these deceivers would go to, to convince the public in order to maintain their status as the religious world leader…)

For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Matthew 24:24

This is a very cautious warning for us believers, to be very discerning when it comes to anything deemed “miraculous”. I have to remind everyone that a favorite practice of satan (who is called a liar, the father of lies, and the deceiver – and who also disguises himself as an angel of light) is to invert everything good and holy into one of corruption and wickedness.

What does the Bible say about demonic/satanic miracles?

What better way to do this than to lead the followers astray by taking Jesus Christ’s spiritual/metaphorical words, and twisting them into the belief that one must literally consume His flesh and drink His blood? Which by today’s measure, could be deemed as a cannibalistic, ritualistic custom. After all, if we read outside of the Bible and take a peek into the Book of Enoch, it states that one of the reasons why the great flood happened at all is because the nephilim (offspring of the fallen angels) gave in to the consumption of human flesh and all sorts of wicked tendencies.

(referring to the giants/nephilim) 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them,
4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind.
5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood.
6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
Book of Enoch 7:3-6

On August 18, 1996, a woman parishioner allegedly found a consecrated host on a candle holder and brought it to Fr. Alejandro Pezet. After a few days of leaving the host in the tabernacle to dissolve, found that it had been transformed into a bloody tissue that was much larger than the original host. It was then photographed and sent for scientific study by none other than our current Pope Francis (Jorge Bergoglio).

The Eucharistic Miracle Overseen by Archbishop Bergoglio (Now Pope Francis)

Just as an added bonus, here are some questionable quotes from Pope Francis himself:

Pope John Paul II was a saint, I am the devil.”
“having a personal relationship with Jesus is dangerous and very harmful.”

– Pope Francis Says: “I Am The Devil”

“Joking” or not, these are pretty serious statements coming from the head of the Roman Catholic Church…

Here’s another extremely controversial quote, from Pope Francis:

“‘Yes, I carry the cross to show that I am a Christian.’ ” And “It’s fine,” but “not just as a badge, as if it were a team, the badge of a team’; but [rather], said Francis, “as the memory of the man who made himself sin, who made himself the devil, the serpent, for us; he debased himself up to the point of totally annihilating himself.”

Pope Francis: Christ “Made Himself the Devil”

There are also some extremely disturbing and, quite frankly, terrifying, implications of the Vatican installing satan as the new head of the church and the shady practices they engage in… so take that for what it’s worth…

Satanic Black Masses at the Vatican

Follow that up with this additional perspective from Pope Francis, and it starts to paint an incredibly sordid and depraved picture…

Pope Francis compares abuse by priests to ‘satanic mass’

I have to admit, one of the reasons why it’s so hard for me to accept the Catholic teachings that the bread and wine literally become Jesus Christ in the flesh and blood, is because it sets a dangerous precedent on consuming the body and blood of the innocent, to maintain a “saving grace” to wipe away one’s own sins. While Jesus Christ Himself should be the ONLY one to turn to, there are certain religious sects that take His word to heart, even further, by following the same verse of John 6:53, but with a slightly different meaning that changes everything:

53 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you
John 6:53

We see that “Son of Man” is capitalized, which presumes that it is a title given to Jesus Christ. However, if one were to take this verse literally and dissect its meaning, well, most of us would not consider Jesus Christ to be the “Son of Man”. Don’t we all consider Him the Son of God? So who is the Son of Man? Why would Jesus Christ be referring to Himself in this way? After all, if the biblical story of Jesus’s birth is any indication, He was not even born from a man but from a virgin woman and the holy spirit in the “Immaculate conception.” Of course, “man” is usually the term used to include all of humanity (mankind), so this could easily be explained away. And since Jesus is not one to boast about His heritage coming from God, He states also that He came from man.

But, as many confused or simply immoral groups will pursue, one can misconstrue any verse and twist its meaning to suit their own agenda. So now this “Son of Man” title can literally refer to ANYONE. “Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man (any human being) and drink His (in some translations, “His” is not capitalized) blood, you have no life in you.”

And while people may laugh and scoff at the idea, the history of vampirism is a very real ideology, and there are some that truly believe that in order to have a long and healthy life, one must consume another being’s flesh and drink their blood.

History of Vampires

Even if ‘vampires’ in the traditional sense don’t really exist, there are still many people that believe that consuming other human being’s flesh/blood will give them a longer lifespan and/or give them mystical powers. There are also pagans/witches/warlocks… even misguided souls that have reverted to using ‘blood magic’ to help them with their woes or any other number of transgressions or desires:

Practicing Witchcraft: What You Should Know About Blood Magic

While the author of the above article tries to present this practice in a benign way, even setting “rules” as to how one should use blood in their magic, they cannot speak for everyone that they will adhere to this. If we know anything about the human nature and the addictive quality that power (even an allusion of power) gives to anyone, once they get a taste for it, the measures taken goes to extremes and therefore steps outside of the boundaries that was once set upon them.

Although imho, this occultic practice should not even be attempted since it is quite possibly opening doors that should never be opened. It invites spirits/demons in and may be one of the reasons why people claim to be cursed/haunted/possessed, etc.

In closing, while I do agree that the wordings of the verses lean heavily into a physical consumption of the body and blood of Christ, I am also of the belief that translations and interpretations get confused, especially when trying to ascribe meaning and words to an ancient language. (And that’s if the translations are not skewed on purpose…)

After doing all of this research and myself being a believer of Christ, I have come to this understanding:

The ingestion of the bread/wafer that indicates Jesus’s flesh is a symbolic gesture for that person saying, “I come to you, Jesus Christ.” while the drinking of the “wine” is akin to saying, “I believe in you, Jesus Christ.” Not that Jesus was literally referring to Himself as a physical manifestation that people must eat and drink.

35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
John 6:35

It is my belief that Jesus was indeed speaking in metaphorical terms and talking from a spiritual standpoint. He knew that the hard-hearted, the unbelievers, the stubborn materialistic inclinations of some people would not understand His sayings no matter how He worded it. And that some people may be misled by this teaching. So He spoke with this type of parable to the people that could glean meaning and understanding that Jesus Christ is asking His followers to pursue a spiritual path – instead of the physical.

Of course, I have to admit, for Jesus to describe people’s manner of following Him in this way, does leave it open to different perceptions/interpretations. After all, if one were to read His verses in the literal sense, there is no other way to differentiate His meaning other than an actual consuming of His flesh and drinking of His blood. And it’s fascinating that even other Catholics cannot come to a resounding definitive answer as to the purpose of the eucharist/transubstantiation.

But perhaps to clarify, and put this whole situation to rest, Jesus also says this to his disciples after his very controversial, parabolic teaching:

It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
John 6:63

Again, why Jesus Christ decided to tell His allegory in such a perplexing way, is perhaps the bigger mystery.

Was He testing His followers and other believers/non-believers alike? To see who would still follow Him and understand this spiritual/conscious teachings?

(And on the flip-side, to see who would take His words literal and continue seeking the physical fulfillment of a worldly life with material sustenance – instead of The Word and Life of the Spirit…)

Bottom line, God knows the motives of our heart. If we come to Him with a sincere and genuine faith and pure intentions, God knows this; and whether we believe in the literal transubstantiation of the eucharist or not, it should not be the key determinant in what kind of person you are or what kind of life you’re living.

After all, one can participate in the mass, yet not be a believer at all…

Personal disclaimer: These are my understandings and beliefs only. In no way am I claiming to know the absolute Truth. This is just what resonates with me and what I have come to realize during my quest to seek Jesus Christ and information I have gathered from the Bible and other sources.

Fact checking is extremely important. I want to reiterate not to take everything at face value; no matter what you read, where you read it from, or who you hear it from. And to be clear, do not rely on “fact checking” websites to give you accurate information either. These are just as likely, (if not even more likely…), to feed false information and false debunking accounts to manipulate the reader. Please take everything into consideration before adhering to a certain narrative – and always keep your mind open to other possibilities.

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The Mysterious Comte de Saint Germain

Ascended master? Or master deceiver?

It’s fascinating the kind of information you can find, even when not necessarily looking for it. Take the Count of Saint Germain, for instance.

I first came across his name many years ago from a youtube recommendation video, and while I watched a little bit of it, thought, ‘hm, that’s interesting’, and then practically forgot all about it. Until a few weeks ago when the name kept popping up; over and over and over again.

Since one of the main topics that I think is extremely important in order for us to know what’s going on in the world (of course, that only applies to people who want to know what our world is about and who are actively seeking for truth – there are some that don’t mind being plugged into the matrix and want to avoid the truth at all costs…) are secret societies.

Many people think it’s such a ridiculous concept at first, but when taking the time to actually research this subject matter, then truths of it become undeniable. And then it’s hard to “unsee” it.

Getting back to Saint Germain, the history proposes that this man has been incarnated many times throughout the years; alleged to have been (among possible others):

– (Debated, could be as far back as 36,000 BC, if not further) Hermes Trismegistus / Thoth
– (~13,000 years ago) High Priest of the Violet Flame Temple (Atlantis)
– (before 1070 BC – 1012 BC) prophet Samuel
– (990 BC – 931 BC) King Solomon
– (427 BC – 347 BC) Plato
– (100 BC – 1 ADJoseph (husband of Mary)
– (unknown – 209/251/304 AD) Saint Alban
– (410 – 485) Proclus Lycaeus
– (6th century) Merlin
– (1220 – 1292) Roger Bacon
– (1451-1506) Christopher Columbus
– (1561 – 1626) Francis Bacon (suspected of having the pen name William Shakespeare, famous playwright)
– (1690 or 1710 – 1784) Saint Germain (alleged to have died in 1784 – but has been spotted since then)
– (1800’s?-1900’s?) Jacques St. Germain (suspected)
– (1940 – 1983) Richard Chanfray (self-claimed to be the reincarnation of Saint Germain)

Additional sources:

The Immortal Count of Saint Germaine: Ascended Master of Ancient Wisdom
Lucifer’s greatest deception is here; Saint Germain, the World Trust and the light
Saint Germain

Channeled Material

He has also been purported to have contacted different people, such as Guy Ballard (I AM movement) and Mark and Elizabeth Clare Prophet – but as with everything, including the supposed incarnations from above, please use discernment and research before coming to a definitive conclusion. (I would even say that this is one of those cases in which there is no real, conclusive outcome – just a lot of information that could or could not be true.) And any sites I reference are only to be used as further resources and I am not claiming to be based on facts. So please keep this in mind.

There are also a lot of other channeled material that mediums have claimed came from Saint Germain. And yes, while I like to think I have an open-mind, I am also pretty skeptical when it comes to these claims. Having said that, do I believe that channeled material is a possibility?

Yes. Yes I do. But I am also aware of the dangers and deception that these spirits/entities/what have you, can pull on the public, much less the “channelers” themselves either willingly/knowingly deceiving the public, or whether they truly believe that the messages are coming from an outside source.

Now since I have had my brush with unusual circumstances in the arena of spiritual insight, I can’t just dismiss other people’s claims outright. And while I agree it would be harder for one to just believe that this is plausible if they have not had the same experience, then I absolutely can’t fault them for not believing it. But this is not asking you to believe it. Just to think of this as within the realms of possibility. And I have to admit, if it weren’t for my own experiences, it would be hard for me to suspend disbelief and be able to look at this with an open outlook.

On the subject of channeled material, one “outside source” that I find myself looking at from time to time is Edgar Cayce, who is renowned for accessing the Akashic records. Just out of curiosity, I wanted to see if there were any references to Saint Germain in Cayce’s readings. To my shock, there was. Although it was only one small snippet:

Q- For the better and more rational presentation of the work of Edgar Cayce to the world, will you, if you consider same in order, kindly inform us of thine Identity and the source or sources from which you bring us the information. Is it from the Astral —

A- (interrupting) From the Universal Forces that are acceptable and accessible to those who in earnestness open their minds, their souls, to the wonderful words of truth and light.

Q- To what extent are the Masters of the Great White Brotherhood directing the activities of Edgar Cayce? Who are the Masters directly in charge?

A- Messengers from the higher forces that may manifest from the Throne of grace itself.

Q- Who are the Masters directly in charge? Is Saint Germain–

A- (interrupting) Those that are directed by the Lord of lords, the King of kings, Him that came that ye might be one with the Father.

Q- Is Saint Germain among them? Who is Halaliel?

A- These are all but messengers of the Most High. Halaliel is that one who from the beginning has been as a leader of the heavenly host, who has defied Ariel, who has made the ways that have been heavy– but as a means for the understanding.

Q- Is Saint Germain among them?

A- When needed.

Source: Edgar Cayce reading | 254-83

It’s interesting how invested the questioner is to finding out more about Saint Germain. While in the meantime it seems as if they only get cryptic responses in return. And while I couldn’t find much more on Cayce’s readings into Germain either, I did find this reading within the same topic very intriguing:

Q- Is it likely that I will meet any of the brothers (White Brotherhood) in the flesh, as Mr. Cayce has done, in this incarnation?

A- Ye may meet many. Oft doth man entertain angels unawares.

Source: Edgar Cayce reading (pdf) | 3011-3, pg. 47

A little “conspiracy theory” of my own

I couldn’t help but make an association between the strange tales of the Count of Saint Germain – who allegedly “never dies” (as quoted from Voltaire) to the references to vampires and of the man named Jacques St. Germain – who claimed to be a descendant of Saint Germain. Very suspicious, no? Although Saint Germain was supposed to have died in 1784, the appearance of Jacques in New Orleans in the early 1900’s is very telling.

And when you have the historical accounts of vampirism and the legends that they drink blood to stay young… well, I hope I don’t need to spell out where I’m heading with this.

And did you know that after Francis Bacon’s fake death (one of Saint Germain’s incarnations) “He traveled secretly to Transylvania (now part of Romania) to the Rakoczy Mansion, where he continued preparations for his physical Resurrection and Ascension under the direct training of the Master R (Great Divine Director). He had incarnated in that area a number of times in previous lifetimes and felt particularly at home there.” – Ascended Master Saint Germain

Then take into account that “many scholars believe that he (Saint Germain) descends from Francis II, king of the Principality of Transylvania“. – The Count of Saint Germain And The Secret of Immortality

Huh. Transylvania. Where have I heard that before?

Then of course you hear of all the stories of Saint Germain very rarely eating in the company of anyone, choosing instead to drink liquid many assumed to be wine.

Am I suggesting that Saint Germain’s key to immortality is drinking human blood? (I’m not even going to go into the topic of “young blood” to reverse aging, because it’s disgusting, disturbing, and disgraceful. But would I put it past people of vanity, fear of aging/death, selfish morality to consider it? NO, I wouldn’t, and that’s terrifying.)

I am suggesting that there are strange mysteries and relations, and wicked agendas that may never be solved.

The elite and secret societies

One last thing to note, is his familiarity and closeness with those of the “elite”, mentioned time and time again throughout this research.

When we have several extremely famous names known throughout history in connection with Germain (King Solomon, Plato, Marie Antoinette, King Louis XV, Voltaire, Christopher Columbus, George Washington, Jesus Christ, Catherine the Great, Casanova, William Shakespeare, Anton Mesmer, Helena Blavatsky, etc., etc., etc.) whether from his incarnation or not, and his coincidental appearances and involvement during some of the most incredible turning points in history (fall of Atlantis, “discovery of America“, French Revolution, Declaration of Independence, etc., etc.) then top that off with all of his alleged connections to these secret societies:

Rosicrucian (Rose-Croix)
Great White Brotherhood
Illuminati
Freemason
Knights Templar/Orders of Solomon

(along with others), then we have an incredible tale of mystery, intrigue, and secrecy – that has literally spanned throughout the ages. Could Saint Germain be an incarnation of a fallen angel? Teaching certain people “signs” and “wonders” and esoteric, occultic knowledge? Is he knowingly (unknowingly?) leading people down the wrong path? (If his key to mortality is anything like I suspect it is, then he is most definitely leading people down the wrong path and I can only hope that I am dead wrong.)

Whatever the case is, it is an engrossing, captivating, and quite possibly crucial part of not only our history, but our future as well. If this character is the one leading all of these secret societies into what many believe to be our “key to ascension” – then it is more important than ever to realize what his real purpose is.

Who are these “elites” he’s conversing with? What kind of “knowledge” is he imparting to them? Is he really for “truth and light“, like some people believe? Or is he deceiving all those within these secret societies? Could it be possible that all of these societies started out as seeking benevolent truth but then got infiltrated and corrupted?

We must ask ourselves these questions instead of jumping in to one paradigm or belief system.

For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Matthew 24:24

Fact checking is extremely important. I want to reiterate not to take everything at face value; no matter what you read, where you read it from, or who you hear it from. And to be clear, do not rely on “fact checking” websites to give you accurate information either. These are just as likely, (if not even more likely…), to feed false information and false debunking accounts to manipulate the reader. Please take everything into consideration before adhering to a certain narrative – and always keep your mind open to other possibilities.

Fair use disclaimer: Some of the links from this article are provided from different sources/sites to give the reader extra information and cite the sources, but does not necessarily mean that I endorse the contents of the site itself. Additionally, I have tried to provide links to the contents that I used from other sites as an educational and/or entertainment means only; if you feel that any information deserves further citation or request to be clarified, please let me know through the contact page.

What is the Divine Council?

Angels? Spirits? Men? All (none) of the above?

Throughout my earnest search and study to learn more about the Bible and God, and the origins of where it all began, the concept of the “divine council” caught my attention and is an interesting subject that I wanted to delve into a little bit more.

When I first began my search, it was almost overwhelming because of so many different views by so many different people, about what the Bible could have meant by all the different terminologies used. “Elohim”, holy, divine, angel, heavenly, host, council, god, gods, God, sons of God, etc., etc., etc… What I was left with, was a whole plethora of multiple interpretations without a clear answer and instead simply led me back into a circle to the beginning again. It’s honestly unlikely that I will find a satisfactory answer to the question, “What is the Divine Council?” Although it’s not for a lack of trying.

Taking an Objective Look at the Bible

Now, with that being said, and which I’m sure might offend some readers, I have to state the most obvious reason that some people might stick fast to the thought that the Bible and God, as it is written, is infallible. It is their belief structure and their headstrong desire that they have something fool-proof to cling to so that their life and their thoughts have a stable dependency. Which is why I think some people will hold fast to a certain belief or religion without looking at all the information or the wide-picture to make sense of it. Again, I don’t mean to offend or blaspheme, because I do love God and Jesus and the Holy host with my whole heart, and it is because I love Them that I am on this quest for Truth.

Knowing how “man” (and perhaps these “supernatural rulers”) will oftentimes corrupt and twist a particular event to suit their needs, or even if there was simply an honest mistake, one has to wonder if the Bible itself is not compromised. What was I’m sure a legitimate piece of writing from God could have been misinterpreted/mistranslated throughout the ages or simply purposefully edited/altered. Anyone who knows even just a little bit of the history of Jesus (that we read and/or were told) will have some kind of understanding about the opposition and trials he endured by others who were intimidated by His being. What better way to throw His followers off the trail than by infiltrating His church and/or the Bible?

I say the above only to give awareness that what we’re currently reading in the Bible may not be the whole Truth/account of what really happened. As we’ve seen in current times, our news and media stations, indeed, some of our churches and other corporations we’ve been conditioned to trust, have been corrupted and infiltrated to lead us on the wrong path. The awareness or possibility that this is even feasible must run through people’s minds to give them a certain careful discernment about the life-long pursuit of some of these corrupted individuals to erase spirituality from people’s minds. It sounds far-fetched, but throughout my experiences and research into some strange phenomena and the facts surrounding them, the conclusion it boils down to is this: “We are indeed in the middle of a spiritual warfare.”

Back to the Divine Council

Now, instead of giving my (or anyone else’s) interpretation of what the Divine Council is, I want to select a few of these occurrences from the Bible (assuming that it has not been corrupted or altered/mistranslated in anyway) to provide some background that this term and the concept is written about and lends credence to the possibility of other “supernatural” beings.

Speaking about false prophets:

18 But which of them has stood in the council of the Lord to see or to hear his word?
Who has listened and heard his word?”


21 I did not send these prophets, yet they have run with their message; I did not speak to them, yet they have prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in my council, they would have proclaimed my words to my people and would have turned them from their evil ways and from their evil deeds.”

– Jeremiah 23:18 & 23:21-22

19 Micaiah continued, “Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne with all the multitudes of heaven standing around him on his right and on his left.
20 And the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?’ “One suggested this, and another that.
21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.’
22 “‘By what means?’ the Lord asked.
“‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,’ he said.
“‘You will succeed in enticing him,’ said the Lord. ‘Go and do it.’
23 “So now the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you.”

– 1 Kings 22:18-23

Speaking of other “gods” / evil entities:

3 But the angel of the Lord said to Elijah the Tishbite, “Go up and meet the messengers of the king of Samaria and ask them, ‘Is it because there is no God in Israel that you are going off to consult Baal-Zebub, the god of Ekron?’
4 Therefore this is what the Lord says: ‘You will not leave the bed you are lying on. You will certainly die!’” So Elijah went.

– 2 Kings 1:3-4

12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
– Ephesians 6:12

(fourth beast/kingdom)
25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.
26 “‘But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever.

– Daniel 7:25-26

Speaking about the elders/divine hosts:

2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it.
3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne.
4 Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads.
5 From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.

9 Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever,
10 the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever.

– Revelation 4:2-5 & 4:9-10

9 “As I looked, “thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze.
10 A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened.

– Daniel 7:9-10

5 The heavens praise your wonders, Lord, your faithfulness too, in the assembly of the holy ones.
6 For who in the skies above can compare with the Lord? Who is like the Lord among the heavenly beings?
7 In the council of the holy ones God is greatly feared; he is more awesome than all who surround him.

Psalm 89:5-7

These are just a few references about other “gods” and the concept of a “divine” council/counsel – if you will.

There are countless debates about the term “elohim” and “god”/”gods” in relation to this council. Some will say that the term “god” is not to infer an actual “divine” or angelic/heavenly being, rather that what was meant by the author was a ruler, king, or leader. Fully human, of course. But when we look at the actual context of these verses, this reasoning does not stand. There are clear indications that these other entities being referred to are indeed of a spiritual/supernatural (as we define it) nature. Whether it be divine/heavenly/angelic, or a lying spirit, to a wicked spiritual force of evil in the heavenly realms.

If one were to take the Bible at heart, they would have to come to terms with the likelihood that there are a multitude of different spiritual beings, both of the good/holy kind, and those of the wicked/evil type. The many references that the Bible itself lends to other “gods” cannot be lost on us. That is not to say that they are “real” gods in the sense that they are an all-powerful being overseeing the universe like the one true God, but it could be saying that they are a deity of sorts in that they were created as a supernatural, or a “divine” force.

(DIVINE – according to etymonline.com: “pertaining to, of the nature of, or proceeding from God or a god; addressed to God,” from Old French divin, devin (12c.), from Latin divinus “of a god,” from divus “of or belonging to a god, inspired, prophetic,” related to deus “god, deity” (from PIE root *dyeu- “to shine,” in derivatives “sky, heaven, god”)

There is another interesting chapter that I wanted to address here when looking at the “divine council” theology. And as we can see depending on which version we use, the implications of these verses can be vastly different.

Psalm 82
A Psalm of Asaph

1 God presides in the great assembly;
he renders judgment among the “gods”
:

2 “How long will you[plural] defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked?

3 Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.

4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.

5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.

6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’

7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”

8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.

– Psalm 82:1-8 (NIV)

A Plea for Justice
A Psalm of Asaph

1 God stands in the congregation of the mighty;
He judges among the gods
.

2 How long will you judge unjustly,
And show partiality to the wicked? Selah

3 Defend the poor and fatherless;
Do justice to the afflicted and needy.

4 Deliver the poor and needy;
Free them from the hand of the wicked.

5 They do not know, nor do they understand;
They walk about in darkness;
All the foundations of the earth are unstable.

6 I said, “You are gods,
And all of you are children of the Most High.

7 But you shall die like men,
And fall like one of the princes.”

8 Arise, O God, judge the earth;
For You shall inherit all nations.

– Psalm 82:1-8 (NKJV)

Depending on how one interprets the following chapters, and which version they are using, we can see how the context can be extremely different from each other. While the version on the left (NIV) surrounds the term “gods” in quotation marks, the NKJV does not. Also, the NKJV seems to follow in line with the other psalms of Asaph, in that Asaph is the one crying out to God as to why He seems to be showing partiality to the wicked. The NKJV seems to imply that it is Asaph wondering why God is judging unjustly, and is pleading to Him to do what is right and show mercy to those who are good and righteous.

The NIV, on the other hand, is indicating that it is God addressing the other “lesser gods” to do their duty right. To stop showing favor with the wicked and instead rule and judge amongst the people in the way that He has decreed them to.

There are so many examples like the one above that differ depending on how one reads it or interprets it. How do we know, for sure, which is the correct one version? (Out of many.) Or if both interpretations are incorrect? Would it be hubris to declare that one is more correct than the other? Or is there a level of discernment one must take in order to find the Truth? If something comes to light eventually that proves to be fact and is undeniable that we might not agree with, would we be willing to set aside our false belief? Or is our belief system so ingrained and conditioned within us that we will fight tooth and nail to hold on to what may possibly be heretical ideas?

Conclusion: Is the Divine Council biblical?

If we are to take the Bible at heart, even if there are supposed errors/mistranslations in its midst, the conclusion from all of these verses and other contextual evidence is that a divine council does exist. Even if we bypass all of the quotes above, we have from the very beginning (literally) in the first chapter of Genesis where God declares, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.

This is unmistakably expressing that there are other beings like God before He created mankind.

There are also other allusions to the possibility that the “divine council” may even be a general term to include even the wicked spirits.

Take Job 1:6-12, into account:

6 One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”

Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”

8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. 10 “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.”

12 The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.”

Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.”

Now while these verses don’t specify if this was a formal hearing or meeting of sorts with these angels, and it also doesn’t indicate that Satan was invited as a normal member of this “council”, it does show, in this instance, that God at least humors Satan, whether it was part of His sovereign will or not. Whether or not Satan or other less savory beings regularly attend these divine/heavenly meetings is still up for debate. (Along with the terminology of “gods” actually referring to human rulers/leaders in a mocking way – perhaps in some situations it is the case.)

During this research, one name that kept popping up in regards to the divine council and its meaning is Michael Heiser. I provide the following links for more information should you wish to delve into this further:

Michael Heiser: The Divine Council and gods of the bible

What Is The Divine Council And Is It Biblical?

The Divine Council of Yahweh

And I don’t believe I can mention “divine council” without at least mentioning “aliens”, in some way shape or form. Some people attribute heavenly beings to possibly being aliens. The Pleiadians/Arcturians come to mind, since there have allegedly been messages channeled from these beings to help us on this planet. Or even from the Ra/Law of One material. Others might be familiar with the term Galactic Federation. Then there’s the theory that these beings are vibrational/energy frequencies, perhaps of the Christ consciousness. Too many different terminologies and speculations abound without a solid (no pun intended), clear answer.

As always, if you have further insights or questions/comments about this material, I would love to hear them. God bless.

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