Jerm Warfare Interview with Dr. Zelenko: “These “vaccines”, which I call ‘poison death shots’ “

“The only reason you’d vaccinate your child is if you believe in child sacrifice.”

Dr. Zelenko, the doctor who created a treatment protocol for COVID, sits down with Jerm Warfare to discuss COVID, the dangers of the vaccines, and the worldwide suppression and agendas that are occurring around us.

The below video of the interview has been transcribed in full, with some embellishment added for emphasis.

Intro message from Dr. Zelenko: “Hi, my name is Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, I’m the original owner of the Zelenko protocol, which is a pre-hospital treatment for COVID-19.

What I believe is going on: that the enemies of humanity have weaponized fear and anxiety in order to effectuate a change in your life to mold society into the direction that they believe to be correct. And that involves taking away our freedom, and anxiety is a tool to which they enslave us.

So I’m here just to give you a simple message: that COVID-19 is highly treatable. There are treatment approaches as well as prevention – preventive, prophylactic approaches, and there’s no need to be afraid. There’s plenty of information available and even over the counter options without prescriptions that can save your life. You really don’t have any reason to be afraid once you have the right information. The information will set your mind and your soul free. And you don’t have to live with paralyzing anxiety.”

Jerm Warfare @1:54: “My name is Jerm. This is Jerm Warfare, the battle of ideas. That was the face and the voice of Dr. Vladimir Zelenko who is joining me right now on the other side.

It’s a great pleasure, Dr. Zelenko. Thank you for being here.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Thank you so much for having me.”

Jerm Warfare: “You posted a video saying that your cancer has returned.”

” – worst global crime in the history of humanity.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko @2:18: “Yeah, I have a very rare – actually the rarest form of cancer there is. And there’s around 10 cases a year in the world. Always found at autopsy. And I was diagnosed with it three and half years ago during an emergency surgery, where they thought that I had a blood clot and turned out to be a tumor that killed my right lung in the pulmonary artery. I had that resected and I went through very difficult chemo which I had to design myself, cause there was no treatment available.

And that was good for two years, and then it came back last summer. Had another open heart surgery and had my heart valves replaced because of the tumor. And then just last week I found out it came back again, again in the pulmonary artery. And so now we’re putting together a plan to deal with this, but the game is not over. I’m very hopeful and optimistic about the future. Both mine and that of the world.

I really believe that my heart is still beating because of the prayers and the positive energy of so many decent people around the world. It’s what happened last time. I had millions of people praying. And so statistically, naturally I shouldn’t really be talking to you. I should be under the ground. And yet God has spared me for now, and I ended up, just a few years after having this type of cancer diagnosed, being the tip of the spear of the worst global crime in the history of humanity. And so part of the reason I was spared is becoming… revealed to me, I would say. But God’s ways are very mysterious, so.”

Jerm Warfare: “If you get through, which I’m hoping you will, you can call it the Zelenko Miracle.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Well, listen, it’s already a miracle, every second of my life. And your life is a miracle. And those are things that we don’t necessarily focus on or appreciate, until our lives are threatened.

See the address between life and death is something very familiar to me. And so when someone lives in that state of being, you realize that: I want to say Happy Birthday to you. And not because – I don’t really think it’s your biological birthday, but what it is, is that every second of existence is a recreation; creation ex nihilo, something from nothing. God is making us in the present tense. And so since we’re being made every nano-second, that implies a few things. That He knows about us, He cares about us, He wants us to be. And if He wants us to be then you’re never alone. If you’re never alone there’s no room for anxiety.”

Government’s protocol: ‘Send them home and give them tylenol’
Meanwhile, patients were getting sicker and eventually put on ventilators – in which 80% DIED.

Jerm Warfare @5:08: “This – let’s go back 18 months or so. Life was somewhat normal, and then suddenly this weird thing happened.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “So I didn’t choose COVID, it chose me. What I mean by that is that I was practicing family medicine in upstate New York, in a small community of 35,000 people that live within a square mile. Very high population density. And when COVID arrived, it spread to everyone. Immediately. And I found my practice, my little practice of – we used to see 50 patients a day – inundated with over 250 patients. And there was no treatment at that time.

The government was telling us, “Send people home. Give them tylenol. When they get sicker, send them to the hospital. They’ll end up on a respirator.” And 80% were dying… on the ventilator. So that didn’t seem like a good idea to me. So, just like 3 years before, I had to develop my own cancer treatment, because nothing existed. I figured, well, why not innovate and find something to help my patients. These are people that I care about; these are people that I’ve cared about for 2 decades.

And so, I actually prayed; at 2 o’clock in the morning. I couldn’t sleep – You know, when people look at you and say, “Doctor, please help us.” And they – and you care about them, and then you have nothing to offer them. It’s a terrible feeling.

It’s, it’s – so, I just was studying what other countries have been doing. And something made sense to me. That in South Korea they were using hydroxychloroquine and zinc. And France, in Marseille, France, they were using hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin. And I understood the mechanism of action of these drugs and I said, you know, why don’t we just combine the three of them, modify the dosing and see what happens? Why not? This is battlefield medicine. You know? This is World War 3, the whole world is fighting the same virus, there’s no studies, there’s nothing that I could rely upon. So what do you do? You innovate.

They say necessity is the mother of all innovation. I had a necessity. I had to take care of my patients. I’m an outpatient doctor. Meaning pre-hospital doctor. My job is to keep people out of the hospital. That’s what I’ve always done, 20 years, in every other aspect of medicine. So why would I allow my patients to go home and just get sicker? It didn’t make sense.”

Dr. Zelenko develops a treatment protocol for COVID

@7:38: “So, since I understood the virology, I understood that this virus is an RNA virus that uses certain pathway for viral replication, and I found out that zinc inhibits that process, so zinc was the bullet. And I said, okay. But there was a problem with zinc. It didn’t get into the cell. Due to biochemical reasons. And so it was having like a bullet without a gun. So I needed a gun.

And it turned out that hydroxychloroquine is a zinc delivery system. So zinc ionophore; it lets zinc go from outside the cell to inside the cell. And by doing that we were able to inhibit the RNA dependent RNA polymerase; it’s just an enzyme, but all the COVID strains were using to… to use to make copies of themselves. And I shut down viral replication. So in other words, zinc was able to get to the right place at the right time, and stop the virus from making copies of itself. So that was the mechanism of action.

It was theoretical, but I deployed it. I also didn’t treat everyone. I treated the high-risk patients. And the way I found out who was high-risk, I just called the ICU near me, and I asked the doctor there, who is dying? And they said to me, “well, the old people and the people with chronic illnesses.” I said, “How about the younger people?” They said, “We’re not seeing them in ICU.” So right away I knew that this virus doesn’t kill equally.

So, I didn’t have any resources. Half my staff was sick, the outpatient service was like ‘blood-draw’, and radiology were closed. The hospitals were at near capacity. So I was like walking through my office; it was like a bomb went off. A mass casualty event – people all over. And so I had to triage. I had to make decisions; who to, who would get my attention. And who was low-risk enough that I can send them home. So I basically sent home everyone who wasn’t dying and it was young. And left the older patients; all those that had chronic medical problems.”

Treatment needs to be started IMMEDIATELY – against government “recommendations”

@9:46: “And I started treating them immediately. I didn’t wait for the results of tests. The tests took a week to get back. If I would wait a week, by the time the test result came back, the patient was dead. So instead of – I did the test, but I wouldn’t wait to treat – I used my head and said, “well, you know, the whole community has COVID, there’s no flu, they have all the symptoms, they’ve been exposed, this person has COVID.” Until proven otherwise. And I would treat them immediately. Within the first few days of the onset of symptoms.

From the moment I did that, people stopped going to the hospital and dying. So initially I didn’t believe it. I thought it was a fluke or – I couldn’t believe – But after 50 patients or so, I realized that I… stumbled across, or God gave a gift, of something that is a potential answer to a global problem that has no treatment.”

“Look, COVID is two diseases. There’s the viral infection phase, which is… lasts around 5 days/6 days. And then the immune reaction, your body’s immune system goes on overdrive and it’s the body’s immune reaction that kills the person. It destroys the lungs and causes blood clots. But the immune reaction does not start until a week – 6-7 days into the illness. So the key is to destroy the virus before then, so that the immune reaction, so the monster doesn’t wake up. We have a latent monster inside us – the immune system, in this particular case, and it’s ready to destroy the person. And it takes around a week to wake up. So if we could treat this infection within the first few days, it never wakes up. No problem. Patients get better.”

Media and NIH against the use of hydroxychloroquine – not interested in the treatment of COVID

Jerm Warfare @11:35: “Now, the elephant in the room is the amount of negative press, as you are well aware, surrounding hydroxychloroquine. I mean, Donald Trump, he spoke very highly of it. And funnily enough he took your treatment, didn’t he? As well as a bunch of people in the White House.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Yeah, I ended up treating most of them. What happened was that I made a video addressed to the president, telling – I felt like a front line soldier that found an important enemy map. I needed to get it to the five-star general immediately. Didn’t have time to go through the chain of command.

So I made a video and it was addressed to the president, and the next day his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, calls me on my cell phone. I’m not making – I wouldn’t believe it unless it happened to me. But that’s what happened. And then I told him what I was doing; they were interested. Two days later the commissioner of the FDA is calling me on my cell phone, in Wuhan.

@12:32: And then the – because no one knew what to do. Don’t you understand that at that time, I wasn’t saying that my treatment is the best treatment. I was saying it’s the only treatment! So, so people were looking for solutions. And so then he referred me to the NIH, which was a deadend. They weren’t interested.

And then Rudy Giuliani called me. And I ended up doing a podcast with Rudy; became my good friend. And millions of people saw it. And from that podcast my life has never been the same again. Um, so that’s how people got to know me. And I’ve ended up advising governments and hospital systems and thousands of other physicians.

Um, so I also sent a letter to the president after a few hundred patients summarizing my experience and making my recommendations. And I didn’t know if the president got it or not. Until there was a news conference where President Trump announces to the world that he’s taking hydroxychloroquine. And he says, “Yeah, I got a letter from a, your upstate New York doctor.” And he was telling me this and this and this. I couldn’t believe it. – [Jerm Warfare: “How did you feel?”] – it’s the president of the United States. So, that was pretty cool. And so, that’s how I got involved.

“COVID-19 is an artificially made bioweapon”

@13:50: But, to understand the essence of the problem, we need to understand the essence of the problem. And everything else will make sense. So if I would’ve told you 18 months ago that COVID-19 is an artificially made bioweapon, I would immediately be labeled a conspiracy theorist. [Jerm Warfare: “Yes.”] Now, even the liberal media admits that this is an artificially made bioweapon. It’s a conspiracy, it’s just not a theory. It’s a conspiracy to commit mass murder and genocide.

And to tell you to what degree of resolution we know things – so for example, I can tell you like this, in 1999, that the Ralph Baric, Baric, in the University of North Carolina, at Chapel Hill, modified a surface protein on a bat coronavirus, and made it be able to infect human beings. And he has a patent number associated with that modification.

And then it became, this type of research became illegal in America. It was outsourced by Fauci and the NIH, to Wuhan! And then in 2005 or so, they were able to augment the lethality of this virus, so that it, it can destroy human lungs and cause blood clots. And we know the patent number is associated with those changes.

So no one’s denying that this is an artificially made bioweapon. So, okay. So now you have to understand why is there such opposition to the treatment of it in the pre-hospital setting. Cause what is the real desire goal of this bioweapon. It’s not to kill everyone. It’s to scare everyone. And if you studied psychological warfare, which I have, if you use fear – prolonged fear – and isolation: lockdown, what you do is you psychologically destroy the person. Most people will be compensated.

And then you dangle a false promise: the vaccine, and because you’re living in such chronic pain, and fear, you will gravitate – not intellectually – towards something that, anything, that will alleviate that emotional pain that you’re in. Now, that explains why people get so belligerent if you challenge them. Because if you challenge someone’s narrative, that they bought into, what you’re really doing is bringing them back into that anxiety state, and they, it causes so much pain they can’t stand it. So you can’t reason with them. It’s not a – it’s a super rational transformation of – it’s a way of enslaving people.

Denying the use of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin – because THEY WORK

@16:31: Now, the problem with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, for example, is that they work! And since they work, what that means is that it could reduce the amount of anxiety and fear in the world, which is contrary to the whole point of the bioweapon. It’s a weapon against the bioweapon.

So, you have to ask yourself, why was this released? Why was this bioweapon made? Why is there such a effort – sorry – why is there such a global coordinated attempt to maintain global fear? And there’s an answer.

Um, in 2015 – by the way, I have a disclaimer. I want no one to believe me. Please do not believe anything that I’m saying. But, you can take that information that I am giving you, and I’m giving you very specific information, and go do your due diligence. Do your research. Don’t make the same mistake that you did with the governments, with me. Don’t buy into my narrative. But at least listen. And then, go and look into it, do your research, your due diligence, your – use your brain. And then come to a conclusion. And whatever that conclusion is, it’s yours. But the point is, hear the other side.

Bill Gates and the eugenics agenda

@17:51: So anyway, so with that disclaimer, I’m going to say that in 2015, you can google, ‘Bill Gates, Ted lecture’. So this sociopath – [Jerm Warfare: “I saw it. I saw it.”] So this sociopath calls for the reduction of the world population, because of global warming. Okay. So first of all, what kind of human being, uh, feels entitled to decide how many people should live on the planet or not? So that’s someone who doesn’t believe in the divine nature of humanity. That’s someone believes that in eugenics, or survival of the fittest, or the godless version of our lives.

But anyway, I have a good joke for you, by the way.

A child goes to his mother and says, “Where did we come from?” So the mother says, “Well, we’re made in the image of God.” And then the child goes to the father and says, “Where did we come from?” And the father says, “We evolved from monkeys.” So the child’s confused. So he goes back to the mother and looks for an explanation. So the mother says, “That’s not a contradiction. That’s my side of the family, and that’s his side of the family.” [Jerm Warfare laughs]

So Bill Gates belongs on that, group of people, belong to the monkey side of humanity. Whereas most humanity belongs to the – the wind made in the image of God department. Now, since they think they’re the biggest monkey, they think they’re on top of the food chain. That they can do whatever they want with us.

So here – I’m going to ask you a question. The same sociopath – I’m picking on him, but he’s just representative of a mentality – in last year said that 7 billion people need to vaccinated. So one simple question. Why would I take a vaccine, supported and funded by someone – for my health, a vaccine for my health – supported by someone who wants to reduce the world population? [Jerm Warfare: “It makes no sense.”]

Risk versus benefit analysis: medical necessity / efficacy / safety

@19:57: Okay, so, if I evaluate any treatment, any vaccine, anything I do to someone, I do a risk versus benefit analysis. If what I’m going to do may be risky, but does the benefit outweigh the risk? Otherwise, why would I do it? So, to understand if something is beneficial, you need to assess three things.

Whether you need it: medical necessity. You know a surgeon who operates on everyone is not a surgeon. He’s a butcher. He’s not using medical judgement. Just because someone came to your office doesn’t mean you have to cut him. There has to be a need for it, a reason for it. And the real surgeons know when not to cut. A real doctor knows when not to do something. So necessity.

Does it work? Efficacy. That’ll be useful, right? If I’m going to do something to someone, it better work.

And is it safe?

Though, if you analyze these vaccines from that perspective, and I can do that for you, I don’t know how much time we have, but – [Jerm Warfare: “No, please. I’ve got all the time.”] All right, so let’s look at medical necessity.

Without a vaccine: healthy children have a 99.998% survival rate /
“For every one child that dies from COVID-19 naturally, a hundred will die from the vaccine.”

@21:05: 18 and under, healthy children, have a 99.998% survival rate, according to the CDC, with no treatment from COVID. Why would I immunize a group, a demographic, that has a near 100% chance of recovery with NO treatment, with an experimental substance of questionable efficacy and known danger? The answer is I wouldn’t. Unless, I believe in child sacrifice. Doctor, Dr. Michael – “

Jerm Warfare: “Yeah. Exactly right. But – sorry, sorry, sorry – doctor, the media keeps pushing out a different story. So the questions is, who do you believe?”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Well, you can look at the CDC and see the survival rate of COVID-19. Um, as a matter of fact, I mean I can look at the day outside right now and say it’s night. That doesn’t mean it’s true. So the media is a tool of the fear. Maintaining the fear. So, getting back to my point, which was that – yeah, the young demographic has a 100% survival, essentially, so why would I do something that would threaten that demographic?

If you look at Dr. Michael Yeadon, who was the head of Pfizer, vice president of Pfizer[Jerm Warfare: “Yeah, he was on my podcast also.”] So, you know what he says? The guy is a world expert on vaccine development. And he did his statistical analysis, and he said the following, and he said this to me directly, because I’m friends with him and I called him up, and he said “For every one child that dies from COVID-19 naturally, a hundred will die from the vaccine.” 

Jerm Warfare: “That is not something I want to hear, doc.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Well it’s not about what you want to hear or don’t want to hear, it’s about the truth. I don’t want to hear it either but it’s not going to help the children that are going to be sacrificed. 

Let me ask you a question. What’s the difference if I take a child, let’s say a five year old, and cut its throat, or throw this child off a cliff, or into a volcano or whatever, or inject them with something that they don’t need because they’re going to get better anyway, and it has a 100 to 1 kill ratio? [Jerm Warfare: “Yeah, no… this, um – “]

Without a vaccine: healthy 18-45 year olds have a 99.95% survival rate /
WITH TREATMENT (not vaccine), it’s near 100% survival rate

@23:26: So, okay, I’m gonna finish. Now, if we look at 18 to 45, many healthy adults, so the survival benefit there is according to the CDC, is 99.95%. With treatment, it’s near a 100%. So the same question. Why would I vaccinate a demographic of healthy adults, with something that, against the virus, that they’re gonna get better from, and with something that may kill them? It just doesn’t make sense.

And just yesterday, it was published, multiple studies, that proved what we all knew anyway, that natural immunity is multiple – many many times better than vaccine induced immunity. Which means, anyone who had COVID already and has antibodies have superior antibodies. So why would I inject in them a liquid that makes inferior antibodies and puts them at risk? There’s no medical – just – there’s no medical necessity there.

Okay. Now let’s get to the problematic group. The high risk group, 45 and over, or those that have medical problems, have a death rate, globally, of 7.5%. That’s unacceptable. That is… a huge number of dead people. However, if you treat them, properly, all the data, all the clinical trials or the peer reviewed studies, they’re dozens of them that have corroborated my initial observations. Which I had published in a peer-reviewed international journal, that if you treat people properly, you reduce the death rate and hospitalization rate by 85%.

So, just to explain what that actually means, at a 600,000 dead Americans, we could’ve prevented 510,000 from going to the hospital. So I can reduce that death rate from 7.5% to around 1%. So now comes a good question. If we have something that with treatment, has a 1% death rate, in a sub – in a small demographic of high risk patients, perhaps it’s better to vaccinate than let them get sick. We have to – we have – it’s a good idea – thought. It’s a question. I’m not denying it.
 

By the way, if there were good, effective and safe COVID-19 vaccines, I would recommend them. I’m not against the vaccines, I’m against being stupid. And, so let’s look if these vaccines have – if they work!

Booster shots suggested even though the initial vaccines
DON’T WORK

@26:07: The three most vaccinated countries in the world: Israel, Gibraltar, and in the Indian Ocean there’s an island nation called Seychelles, they all have more than 80% vaccination rates. All the countries are experiencing massive outbreaks of delta variant.

The CDC director, I think her name – Walensky or whatever he name is, said two days ago that it seems according to the Israeli data, anyone who was vaccinated early, has a higher risk to end up in the hospital, in the ICU, and therefore you should take another shot. [Jerm Warfare: “Why?”]

I’ll tell you why in a minute. But, so, so it doesn’t work. Apparently.

And now let’s look at the safety concerns, which is really – could keep us busy for the next hour. Let’s divide safety concerns over time. Because they vary over time. So there’s the first time period would be, let’s say from the moment of injection to 3 months. It’ll be the acute period. Then there’s the subacute period from 3 months to 3 years. And then there’s the long-term, more than 3 years. And I want to break it up in this way because it’s important to understand the mechanisms of action.

The – I’m sorry, my kids are calling me. Um, from the moment of injection until 3 months, people are dying from blood clots. And we know exactly why. The Salk Institute from San Diego published a paper, a landmark paper a few months ago explaining the mechanism. From the moment you’re injected, your entire body becomes a spike factory. Producing a viral spike protein.”

Jerm Warfare: “Sorry, before you go on, can you just explain what that means? Cause we keep hearing about that.”

The “vaccine”/”poison death shots” cause dangerous spike proteins to produce in our body – leading to blood clots

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko @28:16: “Well, um, how do vaccines work? How – usually I would give you a piece of a virus, let’s say the flu virus. So, I’ll take a piece of it, not the whole living thing, although sometimes we do use living tenuated viruses, but in most cases – or polio – that’s a better example. I take a dead polio virus and I inject it into you. Your immune system recognizes that it doesn’t belong there. It mounts an immune response generating antibodies and now if you ever come into contact with real polio, all your soldiers are ready to pounce, and destroy it and you don’t get sick.

That’s how a normal, traditional vaccine would work. These quote/unquote vaccines, which I call ‘poison death shots’, they’re completely different. They don’t inject a piece of virus. At all. They inject a code, a formula, that converts your body into a factory that produces part of the virus. And a very specific part of the virus.

See the virus, coronavirus, is basically a ball with thorns. And it has these little spikes. Let’s call it the male organ. And in order to be able to get into the cell, it needs to attach to the receptor on the cell, which is the female organ. So the spike itself goes and finds its mate, and that allows the virus then to get into the cell. So, the spike is what actually gets the virus inside the cell.

So what we’re doing is giving you a code in the form of mRNA, which is the code. Your body’s cellular metabolism, your body’s own processes, are hijacked to manufacture all these little spikes. Not the whole virus, by the way. Just these little spikes. Trillions, hundreds of trillions of them, and it turns out that they migrate and end up in your blood vessels. Lining the endothelium, which is the inner skin. The inner lining of the blood vessel.

And it’s supposed to be smooth, obviously. Cause you have high rate of flow of blood cells, you don’t want them – [Jerm Warfare: “Yes, I understand.”] – you don’t want them to bump into stuff and break. In fact, all of a sudden you just coated lined wallpaper, inner lining of every vessel in your body with thorns. Little spikes. [Jerm Warfare: “Okay, yes.”] And then the blood cells get damaged. And when they get damaged, they leak stuff. That sets off a reaction in the body to cause blood clots.

So, the main cause of death in the first 3 months is blood clots in the form of heart attacks and strokes, or anywhere else. It could be kidneys, lungs, could be in your mesentery, your gut. So that’s what we’ve seen. And 40% of the deaths are happening within the first 3 days of injection.

How many people have to die from the COVID vaccines before we finally say, ENOUGH?

@31:45: Now, what’s the threshold of death? When do we say, you know, it’s too risky? It’s too much? In 1976 we had the swine flu vaccine. Um, it killed 26 people. The entire vaccine program was canceled.

According to the United States government already, this is according to the government, there’s 13,000 dead. According to the whistleblower, from the CDC, that wrote an affidavit, the number’s 45,000.

That’s not enough? I’m telling you, in 2009 there was a study on the system used for reporting. Called VAERS. That only 1% of events are actually reported. Now, I can make an argument, that maybe rashes are reported much less than death. Agreed. I’m not gonna deny that.

So what is the number? No one really took the time to figure it out. But, okay, it’s not 1%. So I’ll be very generous to VAERS. I’ll give ’em a 20% reporting rate. And that’s being generous. So what that means is that the number of deaths being reported, you have to multiply it by a factor of 5. [Jerm Warfare: “So over 200,000.] I think so.

And there are two other problems with this system. Which is that known reports are being scrubbed off the server. We have evidence of this. We have screenshots of reports that were there a few months ago that no longer exist. We can’t get ’em. And also I have colleagues that are trying to file reports. They lost patients, and the system won’t let them. It’s rejecting their reports, on technicalities.

So, there’s an obvious – and Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin is actually doing an investigation to see to what degree their suppression and obstruction and flow of true side effect information. So, that’s a lot of death already.

Issues of myocarditis and miscarriages – and no long-term assessment of the COVID vaccines

@33:55: The other problem is inflammation of the hearts. Called myocarditis. It damages the hearts it seems of young men. And the other problem is miscarriages in the first trimester in women that have been vaccinated is a much increased rate of losing their babies.

So that’s pretty bad. Remember, this is something that doesn’t work and you don’t need it. And then, let’s go to the longer term consequences. Well, it’s clear that the number of autoimmune diseases and cancers is going up. And there’s enough data concern/smoke, to require further inquiries to see if these mRNA vaccines are actually causing it. Remember, it went from laboratory to human use in less than a year. When on average it takes 10 years to vet a vaccine. So it’s not like we have long-term studies. So you need to know what’s going to be in a few years.

So there’s a concern already of autoimmune diseases and cancer – so that’s going to effect lifespan, and there’s also a real concern – there’s a leaked study from Pfizer that wasn’t supposed to get out. But someone leaked it from Japan. Where it showed the, when you inject it here [Dr. Zelenko points to his arm] where the vaccine actually ends up. And the largest amount ends up in the ovaries. So the question is, what is the long-term consequences on fertility? That has not been vet – that has not been ruled out. That has not been checked or assessed.

” – this vaccine program is the biggest threat to humanity in the history of humanity.”

@35:32: Okay. Now, but that’s – everything I just said is nothing compared to what I’m about to tell you. Between 3 months and 3 years, is a period where the world experts, the top minds in medicine and science, are SCREAMING, “Stop! You’re going to cause a genocide.”

So, for example. Remember, don’t believe me. Dr. Luc Montagnier, he happened to win the Nobel Prize – [Jerm Warfare: “For HIV.”] – for finding HIV. Yes. Pretty big boy. I wouldn’t say he’s the… he said like this. He’s never seen anything like this, and this vaccine program is the biggest threat to humanity in the history of humanity.

Okay. Then, Dr. Dolores Cahill, a top […] from Ireland, came out saying that within 2 years, she believes 90% of the people who got vaccinated will be dead.

Now, – [Jerm Warfare: “Wait! Two years?] – Yeah. So maybe she’s wrong. Maybe it’s 3 years. Or 4 years. And maybe it’s not 90%, what if it’s 5%? Not enough? So she’s raising a concern – hold on, and then Dr. Robert Malone invented the mRNA vaccine technology. It’s telling people, “Don’t take it. It’s too dangerous. The government is lying to you.”

And the, Dr. Michael Yeadon that I mentioned is saying the same exact thing.

Immune system, activated by the vaccine/virus, is attacking our own body –
Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE)

@37:15: What is the concern? And why are people going nuts about this? So, here’s the reason. In the 1960’s, an RSV vaccine was made, given to children, it killed children. No one understood why until they figured out that the children developed antibodies to RSV. And then when they were exposed to RSV, there was a – the immune system blew up and it was the immune system that killed the child. [Jerm Warfare: “What? The immune system?”]

It’s the child’s immune system that killed the child. It was an overreaction. That’s called antibody dependent enhancement. It’s not from the actual vaccine. What happens – listen again. They got the vaccine, they developed antibodies. Now you have these supposedly protective antibodies, then the RSV virus came, touched – came into contact with these antibodies and there was an explosion in unhealthy immune reaction.

Not every part of your immune system is good for you. You heard of autoimmune diseases? Lupus? Rheumatoid arthritis? That’s your body’s immune system attacking your body. That’s unhealthy. So it’s not always that your immune system is good for you.

So, in this particular case, the antibodies that were produced by the vaccine triggered a reaction, once coming into contact with the virus that killed the children.

So in 1970’s, there was something called the dengue fever virus vaccine, same thing happened. They would give it to people/adults; they died. It was the same exact mechanism of death called antibody dependent enhancement.

In all the attempts to make coronavirus vaccines, in the animal models, all of them manifested this reaction. And killed a large percentage of the animals that – in other words, the animals were vaccinated: mice, ferrets, and they produce antibodies, and then they’re purposefully infected with the virus that they’re immunized against. They’re challenged, to see if it works. And a large percentage of these animals died. Again, it’s called antibody dependent enhancement.

So here’s the question. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to rule that out by human beings, before you deploy a vaccine to 7 billion people?”

Jerm Warfare: “It sounds like an absolutely terrible idea. So, why – “

Leading experts warn of the many side effects of the vaccines –
and world suppression of the truth

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko @40:13: “That’s exactly what happened. Said – there’s 2 billion people already in the United States, there’s been a deployment of a substance that has the potential to kill the organism that it was given to. And that potential has not been excluded. And there’s a historical precedent for these things to happen. And it’s being done to people that don’t need the vaccine. And it doesn’t even work.

So, I’m going to make it very simple. Um, this vaccine is being deployed not for medical reasons. At all.

So I already told you, look, the causes, blood clots, inflammation of hearts, miscarriages, increased rates of cancer potentially, increased rates of autoimmune diseases, potential infertility, and the potential of this autoimmune death process, that it’s not me saying it! I am nobody. There are world experts in the fields; you mean, the guy who invented the vaccine – that’s not enough for you? Or the guy who ran Pfizer? Or the guy who won the Nobel Prize for finding HIV? That’s not enough?

These people – so what would be the normal rational thing to do? Would be, well, take a step back, let’s test these more to see if they’re safe. Forget about – you don’t need it, but still. So, do you see what’s going on here?

There is the suppression of life-saving medications, there’s the suppression of knowledge of life-saving treatments. Anyone who dares to say against the accepted narrative that the media is pumping, is deplatformed. It could be the world expert who made the mRNA vaccine who says something against the policy of the government is immediately deplatformed from every social media site. Why is that? And then, the actual side effects of these vaccines are being artificially suppressed, so that we don’t know the truth. And no one really needs this vaccine. Because I explained to you – though… what’s going on here?”

Jerm Warfare: “I mean, Dr. Lee Merritt has said very much the same thing.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Yep, and Dr. Peter McCullough.

A need to reflect on our own values and freedom into the future

Jerm Warfare @42:47: “Yes. He also says the same thing. So, how – how do you, how do you respond, doc? What do you do, in a situation now when you’re hearing about the mandatory vaccines that are coming? And by the way, it’s not just in the United States. Our own government is now talking about making these vaccines mandatory.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Define mandatory. In other words, they’re going to come down and hold you down, and put a needle in your arm?”

Jerm Warfare: “I don’t think that – to that degree, but I think you won’t be able to get employment, you won’t be able to go into shops, etc., etc.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “I wouldn’t worry about it; I’ll tell you why. Because there’ll be so many dead people, rotting corpses in the streets, that the worse it’ll get, it will look like a kindergarten, and you’ll have plenty of job openings.”

Jerm Warfare: [laughs] “I’ve never heard that. That is such a dark joke, but it’s so true.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Look, I am not ready to sacrifice having a future for a few conveniences in the present. [Jerm Warfare: “Sure.”] I’d rather sacrifice the present, so that I have a future. And people have really messed up values. “All right. I can’t fly in a plane, so I’ll take the vaccine.” or, you know, “I’ll lose my job.” or, “I won’t be able to go to school.” And I look at these people and I say, well, you are making decisions on – that will potentially affect your lifespan and you’re doing it so willingly and blind – why? And so people are so gullible; it’s so easy to manipulate humanity.”

We’re in a life and death situation: not with the virus, but with the vaccine

Jerm Warfare @44:36: “Is it, is it literally a life and death kind of scenario? In your view.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Absolutely, yes. We’re at World War 3. And you know, if the Germans were bombing over your head, you wouldn’t be asking that question. But the bombs that are being sent at us are invisible. And sugar-coated. And, I mean, there’s already hundreds of thousands of deaths from the vaccine. How much more death do you need to see before you say enough?”

Jerm Warfare: “Well they’ll say – they’ll respond and say yes, but it’s not because of the vaccine. It’s because of other things.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Well they can say whatever they want. It’s just not consistent with truth. Not consistent with the data. And we know that COVID-19 is exceptionally treated.

It’s true that if there’s a fire and I don’t put it out, it’s going to burn the house down. So you’ve set a lot of fires, artificially. You go around and you set fires around the neighborhood and then you tell people, don’t put it out. Then the neighborhood burns down. Okay? That’s true. But doesn’t mean you have to put gasoline on the fire either. So, my answer to you is, don’t worry about the virus. Be prepared to deal with it. They’re over the counter options. And you’ll be fine. And don’t buy into the false – “

Assessing the difference between DNA and mRNA vaccines –
and the issues with “shedding”

Jerm Warfare @45:54: “Emma has got a question. She wants to know what your thoughts on the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. Because as far as I’m aware it’s not mRNA.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Yeah, it’s worse. It’s a DNA vaccine. In other words, the way it works is, mRNA is limited to the cytoplasm of a cell. To the – let’s call it your living room. It gets into your living room and it uses your television and it makes copies using the equipment that’s in your living room. And those proteins that are made are what are potentially killing you.

The Johnson and Johnson is a DNA vaccine. And that gets into your bed where you are, lying there, in your pajamas, and goes right into your core, into your essence, and makes – messes with your DNA, and then becomes mRNA and – in other words, it’s deeper penetrating. It’s much worse. It’s like having someone – difference of this: someone in your living room and someone in your bed. Johnson and Johnson gets into – into you, real deep.

Now in Texas they have a flag, ‘don’t tread on me’. So I made a meme, ‘don’t shed on me.’ But uh, I don’t like shedding, but it’s not really a major problem for most people. Because what shedding is, is in the first 3 months after you get vaccinated, you’re actually shedding the spikes. And it comes through your breath, droplets, it comes through your skin, comes through other bodily fluids.

Now most people, it may mess up their periods, it may make you feel not so well, but it’s not an enough of a dose to cause real problems. Except in 2 categories of people. Someone who has a blood-clotting predisposition. There are conditions where people are more prone to blood clots. That could trigger blood clots. Because that’s what the main concern is, in the first few months.

And then, miscarriages. It seems to cause miscarriages in, you know, pregnant women. So, if – or women that want to get pregnant; it messes with their ability to get pregnant. So, but it’s a short-lived problem. So it’s not – it’s a problem, but it’s not a problem worth over emphasizing, because there’s much bigger problems.”

Jerm Warfare: “She says, yeah, especially around pregnant women.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “Yeah, so that – that’s a good question. Um, you don’t know who’s vaccinated, and again, if it’s more than 3 months they’re no longer radioactive. You know? But you don’t really know when and what – so, that becomes a hard question. So… pregnant women have to be a little bit more isolated, in my opinion, if they want to protect their pregnancies. But the majority of people should not isolate themselves because of shedding.

Inspiration and advice: ‘Stay away from bad, do good, and live’

@49:04: Whenever I need inspiration, I look back into bigger minds than me. And in the Psalms of David, King David writes the following, a very good prescription: ‘stay away from bad, do good, and live’. So that’s the prescription. So let’s break that up.

‘Stay away from bad’. Do not give into the fear, do not isolate yourself. Do not take a poison death shot. And if you did already, don’t do it again. Don’t harm yourself. Do no harm. Don’t destroy yourself psychologically, emotionally, and physically.

‘Do good’ means, that if you’re in the high risk category group, meaning anyone over the age of 45, or anyone with medical problems, or in my opinion anyone who got the vaccine, you should take prophylactics; it’s preventive therapy. And preventive therapy doesn’t mean to take another shot and make more bombs. Preventive therapy means that to prevent the detonation of those bombs that already exist by using antiviral drugs – um, and you can find them on my website: vladimirzelenkomd.com.

I have protocols with dosing and everything for prescription and for over the counter options. So people could have them in their hands. But they – and the idea is to protect yourself in advance so that you, if you do come into contact with the detonator, another virus, you don’t die. And if you do get sick, God forbid, you have to start treating day one. In other words, you don’t want the monster to wake up. And then you’ll live.”

Spirituality and the sanctity of life –
Godliness vs. godlessness

Jerm Warfare @51:03: “It seems like this is way more than a medical war that grew in. It seems like it’s a psychological war, isn’t it? Religious war, spiritual war, I don’t know what, but it’s certainly more – “

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “It’s a war against God. There are two systems of thought, that can’t co-exist anymore. There’s a system that is based on God centered consciousness. Which means like this, just follow the logic. If God makes you, that means your life, your life has sanctity. If your life has sanctity, that means you have human rights. If you have human rights, then it’s not in the realm of another human being to decide how long you should live and how many of us should be on the planet. That’s God’s department.

There’s another system, which is completely godless. It’s based on Darwin’s theories and Galton who developed eugenics. You know they were – he was a nephew of Charles Darwin. And their system is the survival of the fittest system. In other words, they believe that there’s a hierarchy of humanity, to be based on genetics or other factors, and it’s the strongest, on top of the food chain, that will dictate what happens to everyone else.

Now, this sounds like a fairy tale except that it killed 200,000,000 people 80 years ago. Because invariably it deteriorates into 3 categories of human beings. The super-human, the human and the sub-human. So the Nazis, the Aryans, believed that they were descendants of Aryan gods. And therefore felt entitled that they could enslave and murder anyone they wanted, and wage global war.

And the humans were the Anglo-Saxons, the Europeans that were meant to be enslaved and serve the super-humans. And the sub-humans that I belong to, the Jews, the slobs, the gypsies, handicapped, and political people that oppose them politically, they’re the sub-humans that needed to be thrown into gas chambers and then the ovens and vaporized into dust.

So, and this is not a fairytale. This is history. Recent history. So that mentality did not go away. That mentality went dormant for a bit, and now it’s woken up, but it’s not anti-semitic, actually. What it is, is something else.

On top of the super-human is these, what they perceive themselves as evolved higher level of consciousness people that think that they know better for what the rest of us need, and therefore can make policies that will control how many of us live, and how long we live. In reality, these are not evolved people. These are devolved pagans. These are sociopaths, these are wannabe deities, these are just the biblical historical replay of maniacs that are denying the existence of God and believe in their own immortality.

People who are dictating the rest of the world keep themselves hidden

@54:17: And what – so let’s – who are they? Um, honestly speaking, 70% of all corporate wealth in the world is owned by 150 people. So I would suspect it’s some – some people in that group. And because they control media, politics, academia, and one of their policies – what do they want?

The real people who are doing this are too smart to be in the news. It’s not Fauci, it’s not even Soros or Gates, or Schwab. Because the people that are really doing it are really really smart. And they hide themselves like layers of proxies, to do their bidding. And ‘why would I sacrifice myself – I’m too smart for that’.

But if you look at the World Economic Forum, which is a good example of despotic thinking – tyrannical thinking – and they crafted a 2030 UN plan. It’s already being implemented. And, you know, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, and wrote it many years before he took control. He laid out his plans. These people are not even hiding their agenda. So what is their agenda? Go look at the 2030 World Economic Forum plan, and you’ll see – [Jerm Warfare: “You’ll own nothing.”] – and you’ll be happy, yeah.

What kind of sociopath, what kind of human being feels that they can decide whether you own property or not? Possessions or not? What else do they say? Um, you won’t eat meat except on special occasions. [Jerm Warfare: “And insects, also.”] All right. I didn’t hear that one. They – you won’t use fossil fuels. America will no longer be a super-power. A few European countries will run the world. There’ll be a billion refugees. So, what you have are – this guy, Schwab, said in 2016, it’s on an interview in French, that within 10 years, by 2026, everyone will have a digital tag and identifier in them.

Jerm Warfare: [jokes] “You are really ruining my Friday evening, doc.”

Test on humanity – on our decisions

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko @56:58: “You know, that’s good. Because reality – you need a reality check. And the next people that are willing to stand their ground and sacrifice even their own lives so that humanity’s – the soul of humanity is… remains. Because that’s, it’s an attack on the core of what is means to be a human being. And the core of our souls, and the core of our relationship with Creator.

And ultimately I think there’s a divine test, here. Which is, no one’s making you take this. You’re choosing to do it. There’s no such thing ‘you were forced’. Because, you could be pressured, you could be coerced, but you still have the ability to say ‘no’.

And if you put your trust – if I was God, I would be asking this following question: “I know you’re scared and the world is crazy. But who are you going to put your trust in? Me, who makes you? You’re going to ask me to fill the… your anxiety space? Are you going to ask me for protection? Because I’ll do it. Or are you going to go around to false gods, despotic governments, sociopathic oligarchs, and the golden calf of this vaccine? Because if you are going to do that, then let them protect you. Let’s see how that’s going to work out for you.”

Reflecting on the future – God conscious living vs. immorality

Jerm Warfare @58:20: “In front of you, doc, there is a crystal ball. What do you see?”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “I see a glorious future. I see a… we’re in the cusp of a redemptive process. Where there’s going to be – people are going to self select into… God conscious living, versus idolatry.

And then I believe what the prophets say. Not me. That the spirit of inequity will be removed from the Earth. God will take out His big broom, clean out the garbage, and then the world will be filled with the knowledge and glory of God.

I think, I think that God has had enough of people who, for example, if these despots had their way, a 30 year old man who thinks he’s a woman would be sharing a bathroom with my 4 year old daughter. [Jerm Warfare: “It’s unreal.”]

So this type of erosion – you know, in the Bible it says that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. The Talmud asks why. So one suggestion is because of immorality. The answer’s no. The whole world was immoral. What was so special about them that they were singled out? You know what the answer is? That they codified it into law. It became the law of the land. Immorality became codified as the norm.

[Jerm Warfare: “That’s what’s happening now.”] You think? What do you think I”m telling you this? So I think that we’re in a glorious journey that there’s going to be a transformation. It’s going to be bumpy. Be some turbulence. But at the end, the world will be cleaned up, just like the flood. And we’ll be left with, with people that want to live a God centered moral life.

I’m not afraid of dying. It’s not my department. You know? How I’m going to die, how long I’m going to live, no one knows. And it’s ultimately in God’s hands and He could do whatever He wants.

What I’m afraid of is living. In other words, am I living to my fullest potential? When I have to stand before the King of Kings, and give an accounting – he’s not going to ask me why I wasn’t like you. He’s going to ask me, “Why weren’t you like you could’ve been?” Me. Zev Zelenko. “Why didn’t you reach the potential that I had for you?”

And, so, I want to use my thoughts, of check and control, my speech, and my actions of check and control, and my time. I want to use that in a way that makes the world cleaner and better and healthier, and more Godly, and beautiful. I think that’s a worthy, worthy of my time and efforts. And that’s what I focus on, and that’s what I try to do. And that’s why I’m talking to you.

Jerm Warfare: “I’ve been waiting for 30 minutes to say what I’m about to say, but you are making medicine great again.

Thank you so much for your time. It’s been a great pleasure.”

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: “God bless you. Thank you.” 

Jerm Warfare: “You too. Thank you, man.

My name is Jerm, this is Jerm Warfare, the battle of ideas.”

Thank you so much to Jerm Warfare and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko for this interview. Your efforts to spread awareness and the truth is extremely important especially in these suppressed times, where going against the narrative is ridiculed and censored.

And a special thank you to Dr. Zelenko and other doctors/healthcare providers who made the decision to help treat the people who needed it. Your compassion and integrity speaks volumes of your character and is the role model that people need to get through these uncertain times.

Lastly, a huge thank you to everyone for reading and spreading these messages. God bless.

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Reiner Fuellmich on suing the WHO / Jerm Warfare (Transcript)

Dr. Reiner Fuellmich to Address Crimes Against Humanity

Updated on July 9, 2021 to clarify Reiner Fuellmich’s stance on the upcoming trials. Please refer to the following link for more information.

Nuremberg 2? Reiner Fuellmich Sets the Record Straight with FranceSoir

Reiner Fuellmich, with an extensive team of lawyers and doctors/scientists from around the world, are teaming up to address this widespread farce of the coronavirus/vaccine agenda that we have been thrust into.

The Nuremberg Trials 2021 | The “experimental” vaccine is in violation of all 10 Nuremberg Codes which carry the death penalty for those who seek to violate these International Laws

Dr Reiner Fuellmich begins Legal Litigation on the Covid-19 Fraud- The Greatest Crime Against Humanity

He and his team are uncovering the deception and depravity that a few private organizations have implemented upon the whole world in the guise of a global pandemic. Below is a transcript and video of a shortened interview highlighting some pertinent discussions between Reiner Fuellmich and his interviewer.

To watch the interview in full, please visit the following link: Reiner Fuellmich on suing the WHO

Transcript (embellishment added for emphasis and to highlight pertinent statements):

Reiner Fuellmich: “There cannot be any doubt, whatsoever, at least not for me, after having interviewed so many experts from all different fields of science. Um… doctors, virologists, epidemiologists, economists, lawyers, psychologists, psychiatrists – There cannot be any doubt whatsoever that what has been happening here for a year now, is, and I – when I first said this, some people kind of rolled their eyes and said, “Hey, nobody’s going to ever agree with you”, but this is the worst – these are the worst crimes against humanity EVER, ever committed.

We all know now, I mean, we should though, those ten or twenty percent of us who still have a brain to use and to think with, this has never been about the virus. This has never been about health. This has always been about taking everything away from us so that we would be dependent on them – Plus, population reduction, plus gaining complete control over those who are left.

That is… I wouldn’t have said this a year ago. A year ago if you would have asked me, or if somebody had told me this, I would have said, “Hey, you definitely need to see a doctor.”

But no, this is what all the evidence, all of the people who we interviewed on the corona committee, what this points to, there’s… this is the conclusion is inevitable.

If you, if you don’t have any symptoms, are you really going to go see a doctor? Just because of what this idiot Drosten says? What are you going to do? You’re going to go see a doctor – ‘I have something, I don’t know what it is, but can you help me? Please tell me what I’m suffering from.’

The first question the doctor’s going to ask you is, “What symptoms do you have?”

‘None.’

The Drosten-Corman, or the Corman-Drosten paper, the PCR test protocol, it is completely unscientific. And the second thing is, it looks as though it was done in such a sloppy way on purpose. For the sole purpose of producing as many false positives as possible, all over the world, so that their agenda, which ends with the so-called vaccinations, which of course we all know now doesn’t have anything to do with vaccinations. What we’re dealing with is genetic experiments.

In the end, the clean-up will take years. We’re hoping that this… it’s like an arm-wrestling that’s going on right now. That, as I said, we’re reaching, we’re about to reach the tipping point, I think. Because there’s so many mistakes that they’re making. Because I don’t think that the, all these adverse reactions to the vaccines are part of the plan. And that’s because they’re trying to rush this thing through. And I think what happened is they, we have a whistleblower –

And she told us that the original plan was to roll this out in 2050. But then those who are involved in this got greedy and pulled things forward to 2030, and then to 2020, and that’s why we think that’s why so many mistakes are happening.

‘Cause as I said, they did not really, I don’t think, and we don’t think, they did not really intend these adverse reactions to happen. And to warn even those people who are still, sort of in line with the government.”

Jerm Warfare: “Oh, but come on Reiner, you’re just a tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.”

Reiner: (laughs) “Yeah, well, the thing is, we have the evidence. I’m – this is, I know there’s some people out there who may not quite work with actual evidence. Well, it’s different with us. Because we have been speaking to all of these scientists and other people. Over a hundred in the meantime. It’s happening globally, but in the end, it may very well turn out that we’re going to have to have a special court because, maybe, there’s a lot pointing in that direction, maybe the national courts will not really be able to deal with this. Because this is such a – this is on such a magnitude, it’s so, it’s so big that it is very possible that we’re gonna eventually need to have something like Nuremberg 2.”

Jerm: “Who is “they” and who are the culprits? Or some of them at least?”

Reiner: “Um… what we’re dealing with is probably .00000 something 1 percent of the population trying to, trying to gain control over the rest of the world. Um, this is not about money, because this group of people, maybe 3,000, this group of people, they are the super rich, they have, in terms of financial assistance, they have much more than they need. They’re not gonna need to buy a tenth or a third yacht, or the twentieth maserati or whatever.

So this is not really about money. It IS about money because they’re using money in order to bribe people and the hospitals, the doctors, politicians. They’re also using all kinds of psychological techniques in order to manipulate people or they threaten people, many politicians, some of them may be threatened, some of them may be getting bribed. But it’s not really about money. They’re using money as a tool.

So what we think is their, what they’re really up to is… you have to keep in mind that the very same people we, a part of which we now call the Davos clique, you know, the self-appointed political elite and the self-appointed corporate elite, that is part of the people who we’re dealing with. And those are the ones who are responsible for the financial crisis some ten or twelve years ago. Had we been a little more careful, had we looked a little closer, we would have known that for thirty years this group of people has been stealing the tax-payers money all over the world.

The first financial crisis would have been the perfect chance for us to catch on to what’s going on. They managed to tell us that they have everything under control. They didn’t. But they started to print money in order to keep us quiet. We should’ve been… we should’ve known that you cannot print money in order to restore what they have stolen. It doesn’t make any sense. Well, this time around, in late 2019 I believe, when things were again coming to a head and things were, again, about to implode, they came up with corona as a diversionary tactic. And we have to keep in mind however, we’re not dealing with a monolithic wall on the other side. There’s lots of infighting, there’s contradicting interests, and that’s another one, another one of our chances that we have.

But you know, we spoke to another investment banker, another American investment banker, and she says the reason why Europe is at the center of all this, this is probably the most important battle ground in this whole war, is because Europe is completely, definitely, totally broke. The ECB is totally broke because they bought all this, all these bonds and papers that are totally, completely worthless. And, what’s even more important, the pension funds, they’re completely broke. Meaning, if people find out about this, that despite their spending so much money on their pensions, there’s nothing left, that’s all stolen. Then we’re going to have a real problem.” And that’s one of the reasons why they’re trying to get Europe under control, before people understand really what’s going on.

I think this is all about moral and ethics. It doesn’t really have much to do with the law. In fact, one of the people who we work with says, in a better world, which we probably will have once this is over, we won’t even need laws anymore because people will understand, because they all have a genetically, a kind of a built in censor for what is right and what is wrong. All of the laws that we have now are one-size-fits-all laws. These globalized laws in particular are made by people who are so far removed from the reality of people’s lives in their different regions, that these laws are practically useless. They’re using them in order to keep us under control. But in a better future, we will probably not need this, because if people are educated enough, talking about world competence again, everybody will know what they can do and what they can’t do. Or, people will, in their respective regions, agree on certain terms of how to live together. We won’t need these globalized laws anymore.”

Jerm: “Yeah, so in other words, there’s going to be a move, sort of towards sovereignty again.”

Reiner: “Yes. And back to the roots, so to speak. This globalism is what got us here. We ended up with global… what do you call them? What do you call the WHO, the World Economic Forum, these are private, global organizations which have taken control over the entire world. Private organizations run by the super rich. I think this is, once people understand this, it’s not going to be too hard, to turn the tables.

Would you buy a used car from Bill Gates or from Klaus Schwab? (interviewer laughs) I don’t think so. I mean, just look at him. These people cannot be trusted.

The most important thing is to just spread the information. Spread the truth. Spread the facts to as many people as possible. And, don’t waste your time on those people who are aggressively on the other side who really want to get vaccinated. I mean, it’s tragic, but we will not be able to save everyone. A lot of people will lose, not just their livelihoods but also their lives.

We’re… our hands are extended to them, so if they change their minds they’re always welcome to come aboard. But those ten or twenty percent of the population that I think we are, in the meantime, maybe more, maybe more people are beginning to ask questions; still wearing their mask because they don’t want to get in any trouble, but those ten or twenty percent of the population – we’re the ones who will turn the tables. And that’s why we have to focus on how can we do this best and that’s why we have to connect with each other.

Also, on a – this is surprising for me, but I think it makes sense, also on a spiritual level.

If we lose, that’ll be the end of humanity, we believe. I mean, if we lose, it means we, as human, lose to digitalism and to completely stark-raving mad people. That’s why we won’t lose. We CANNOT lose, because we MUST win.”

Jerm: “It seems like an incredibly difficult battle. I mean, just on a daily basis, nevermind what you’re dealing with – on a daily basis, I mean, it almost seems like it’s an impossible battle ahead.”

Reiner: “Yes, what they want us to believe. That’s why they invested so much money and so much effort into the mainstream media. But, as far as I can tell, if I look at Germany, it’s the reality is completely different from what they’re trying to make us believe. Whenever I, for example, need a cab in order to go someplace in Berlin or here in Goettingen, or any other place, I think I’ve spoken to at least a hundred cab drivers – almost all of them, one exception, that was last weekend, almost all of them, immediately tell me that of course they know this is stupid, that the mask is not doing anything, and they’re not just doing this intuitively, many of them are actually well-informed because they’re not watching public television. They’re watching – they’re getting their information from the new, from the independent, alternative media. The old media are pretty much dead.

Just like with every flu season, people get sick, people get seriously sick and some people die. And, but what happened in Italy, in Bergamo, for example, or in New York, is probably… this is the result of many of the doctors who we spoke with, Italian doctors, and people from New York, is probably more a result of malpractice than it is a result of the flu. Or the coronavirus, if you want to call it that.

But of course, none of us, we all agree there’s something out there, because if it weren’t then people wouldn’t get sick and people wouldn’t die. But as it turns out, the infection fatality rate of whatever is going on is no higher than that of a common flu. Even the WHO says that it’s .14% and that’s probably in line with the common flu. Even the newest study that I think was published a couple of days ago by John Ioannidis points to an infection fatality rate of .15%. So that’s still in line with the common flu.

There’s only .000 something 1 percent of the population trying to gain control over all of us. We are, if it is ten percent, we’re the best ones. I don’t want to be, I don’t want to sound arrogant in any way, but I think this is true. And the rest of the people, those who are falling in line, those who even want to get vaccinated, as I said earlier, it’s tragic but there’s nothing much we can do about it. They do not really play a role. It’s tragic, but we cannot save everyone. They don’t play a role for the other side, at all. You know? The only role they play for them, is that of cannon fodder and guinea pigs.

Jerm: “What can you recommend, what do you suggest people do – I mean let’s be pragmatic here for a second. What can people do to change things?”

Reiner: “The most important thing is, as I said, to get as much information as possible to spread it as far as possible, and I think that’s only possible if as many people as possible connect, worldwide. ‘Cause that gives a certain strength which goes far beyond that of the ability to exchange information. I think this is, even though it may sound stupid, this is strength on a very spiritual level. I’m not a religious person, but I have come to believe, I have come to believe that, um, there is more… there are different levels of awareness beyond the rational stuff.

I just spoke to a friend who, an American, whose son never got vaccinated. Which is totally, completely unheard of in the United States. Because they get dozens of vaccinations – they’re the most vaccinated people in the world. And she says, and there are other people in her family who made sure that their kids didn’t get vaccinated either, and she says, ‘My child, he is eighteen years old now, my child has certain sensibilities which most other people don’t have. And even if I see him in a group of people, he seems different. It’s almost as though there’s a light shining.” So, what I’m trying to tell you is, there is a level of cooperation which goes beyond the rational idea of cooperation and this is, has to do with spirituality, and I think that’s why it’s so important to connect.”

Jerm: “There’s a crystal ball in front of you, Reiner, what do you see?”

Reiner:I see a much better world at the end of this tunnel. There is a light at the end of this tunnel. And that’s a much better world because most of the things that we have come used to, our way of life, is very destructive. Both on a personal level and on a global level. There’s too much injustice and there’s too many people trying to take advantage of other people. That will change. That’s the light at the end of the tunnel I can see. It probably also has to do with my legal hero, his name – he’s a former Supreme Court justice, of the United States Supreme Court, his name is Louis Brandeis, a hundred years ago, he took on 2 monstrous, large industries, the financial industries and the oil industry and he said, because they were trying to cover everything up, he said, “Sunlight is the best of disinfectant.” and that is still true today. So the light at the end of the tunnel is the sunlight that we need in order to see what’s going on and change things for the better.

It’s been working already. There has been progress. You have to look at the bright side. There has been progress. Because more and more people are beginning to wonder. That in itself is progress. We’re winning some of the court battles. We will win many more. Many people are connected to each other as you said, who would never have believed – I would never have believed that I would be speaking to you, for example. That I would be having fun speaking to you. Some of the people, some of the lawyers who we work with, are just great people. Not those idiot lawyers who you wish didn’t exist, but really good people who are not in it for the money, but who are in it for the cause. And so many other people from all walks of life, which, and it tells me that I wasted my time, when, for example, I went to dinner parties, small talking all the time. That was a waste of time. I’m never ever going to do that again.”

Jerm: “Maybe one day, history will look back on us fondly.”

Reiner: “I think so. Absolutely.”

A huge thank you to Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, the interviewers, and the group of people working to expose this egregious scheme. And thank you to those who are waking up and helping to spread this message. God bless you all.

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