Dr. Peter McCullough / John Leake – Full Interview [Transcript]

Renowned doctor exposes worldwide covid treatment suppression and corruption of the medical and governmental agencies.

Thank you to John Leake and Dr. Peter McCullough. The full video below has been transcribed, and while all of the information is incredibly helpful and insightful, I did highlight some pertinent topics that were discussed. I may try and provide an index as well, but at the moment using the ctrl-F function should help in order to find particular words that may be of interest.

 

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Dr. Peter McCullough interview with John Leake: [Full Transcript]

On May 19, 2021 Dr. Peter McCullough was interviewed by author John Leake in Dallas, Texas on the subject of Dr. McCullough’s treatment and research of Covid-19.

Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH, FACP, FACC, FAHA, FCRSA, FCCP, FNFK, FNLA
Professor of Medicine, Texas A & M College of Medicine
Board Certified Internist and Cardiologist
President of Cardiorenal Society of America
Editor-in-Chief, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine
Editor-in-Chief, Cardiorenal Medicine
Senior Associate Editor, American Journal of Cardiology

@00:11: “I’m Dr. Peter McCullough, and I’m an Internist and Cardiologist and Academic Physician Professor of Medicine at Texas A & M College of Medicine on the Baylor Dallas Campus.

And, in February of 2020, like many physicians, I was really taken by storm with the news that a tremendously contagious virus was emanating out of Wuhan, China. And it looks like the United States was in the crosshairs.

When you heard the first reports of this novel respiratory illness headed our way, what were your initial thoughts about how to prepare for it?

@00:46: In the beginning, in my clinical practice, I really didn’t have any viewpoint about prior viral pandemics. And some had mentioned a prior influenza pandemics – if we go back to the 1300’s – there was, you know, plagues that occurred across Europe. But point in fact, we were largely, and very quickly, thrown into emergency mode. And so what happened was a whole series of communications within health systems that really dealt with protection of the doctors and nurses. And Americans were introduced to a term called PPE, or Personal Protective Equipment, and most of our taskforce meetings and calls really didn’t have to do with sick patients. It had to do with protection of the healthcare workers and doctors.

So, I got a sense early on that fear, group fear, was a major driver in behavioral response to the pandemic.

@01:45: My research endeavors and my research life before covid-19 centered on the interface between heart and kidney disease. I’m the President of the Cardiorenal Society of America. I’m considered the most published person on this topic in the world in history. I chair many FDA approved clinical trial data safety monitoring board – in fact I’ve probably seen and examined more drug safety trial data than any doctor in current American medicine. So I’m well-grounded in chronic disease epidemiology and randomized trials.

But for covid-19, our major viewpoint that we had early on, or at least for me with my prior cardiorenal collaborations were, was with Italian doctors. And so we were starting to email each other in terms of what is going on in the metro Milan area. In Milan, and then down to Sienna, in Tuscany, and we quickly started to get an understanding that this illness was like a[n] upper respiratory infection, like a common cold. And for a majority of individuals it was like the common cold.

However, in some individuals, it could progress to what we call the adult respiratory distress syndrome. Where there’s an overwhelming attack against the lungs; patients lost their ability to breathe and exchange oxygen and carbon dioxide, and then required mechanical intubation. So this was unlike any common cold and it appeared to be very different than influenza. Influenza in elderly people can also cause the adult respiratory distress syndrome, but it’s almost always because of a secondary bacterial infection – like staphylococcal infection.

So SARS CoV-2, the virus, and covid-19 appear to have these special features, and then within a few weeks we understood pretty clearly that the illness had 3 major biological features to it.

One was early viral replication, where the virus replicates exponentially as other viral infections do. And that it has a second phase where the immune system is tipped off into a very abnormal maladaptive pattern. So instead of the immune system defending the body, the immune system sends out signals that begin to damage organs, including the heart, the lungs, the kidneys, the brain… the blood system.

And then very importantly, the virus itself, through the spike protein, or the dangerous spicule on the surface of the ball of the virus, the spike protein itself caused coagulation or blood clotting. And a unique type of coagulation. It caused the red blood cells to stick together at the same time the platelet stick together. So this is a very different type of blood clotting that we would see with major blood clots in the arteries and veins – for instance, blood clots involved in stroke and heart attack, blood clots involved in major blood vessels in the legs – this was a different type of clotting.

And in fact the Italians courageously did some autopsies and found micro blood clots in the lungs, and so we understood in the end, the reason why the lungs fail, is not because the virus is there, it’s because micro blood clots are there.

What were you seeing in the initial reports about Covid-19?

@05:11: The waves of reports in published medical literature originally emanated out of China, the early ones, and the public should understand that the typical publication cycle for an academic paper that’s peer-reviewed and published, can be anywhere from 9 months to 2 years.

So, what happened was the publication cycles were too long to get any rapid information out. So immediately our system collapsed and it’s what’s called preprints. So publications would be submitted, papers would be submitted for publication, but the preprint would come out basically telling the world that the paper had not yet undergone peer-review, but we need to get this information out now because people need to understand what’s going on.

So we had a wave from China originally, which was difficult to interpret, because of English writing, because the Chinese population is just so different in terms of its structure, and it was hard to make much out of what was coming out of China outside of it, and in some cases it could be fatal.

Italy was much more like the United States. That was the next big wave and we just collaborate more freely with the Italians. And what I had done is I reached out to what’s called the Coracle Network in Italy as an American doctor and I freely said, “Listen, I am not a virologist, or an immunologist, but I can tell you every infectious disease doctor in America is completely subscribed to inpatient care of patients with covid-19. And there’s nobody able to kind of think their way through what’s going on in the pandemic.”

And so what we learned relatively early is that this illness was clearly and strongly amenable to restratification or that baseline risks was very, very strong determinants, even more so than the virus itself for mortality. So what that meant is, the strongest determinant of mortality is age. And age itself is an underlying determinant or cause of death, if you will, in the general population. Then we start adding on the typical things that put people at risk for death of other causes. Heart disease, lung disease, kidney disease, cancer, obesity, diabetes.

The interesting thing is that obesity appeared to be a super loaded factor. And so the virus seemed to really prey upon patients particularly who are obese. And there are some reasons for this, in terms of how the cytokines and immune factors are generated in response to the virus that could explain it.

@07:48: But we understood quickly, that individuals under age 50, for example, with no major medical problems, could ride through this illness very easily. And in fact, the Swedes figured this out very quickly and said, “You know what? We’re not going to shutdown. We can just, this is sufficiently understood, that we can simply protect the individuals at risk the best we can, the best that any protection measure can, and then we’ll just have our economy and our schools move along in a usual fashion.”

With the pandemic, what happened is there was a global shutdown on travel, and a global shutdown on academic meetings. So for the first time in my career we could no longer meet with our colleagues – in the United States, or overseas. And academic medicine, its lifeblood is meeting and interchange of ideas. And so for the first time we could not freely interchange ideas as a group.

In fact I recall a teleconference early on held by the National Institutes of Health, strictly actually by the Division of insulin- Diabetes and Kidney Disease, it was that institute that I’m aligned with in terms of clinical trials, and it was led by Dr. Robert Star, a terrific scientist, and as I recall there were hundreds of people on that call to just learn about what was going on in other centers.

And people were asking each other, “Well what have you seen out at UCLA?” / “What have you seen at Baylor?” / “What have you seen at Harvard?” And so we were literally just communicating to try to understand what in the world is going on with this virus. “Who needs to be hospitalized?” / “What happens when they’re hospitalized?” / “Who needs mechanical ventilation?”

@09:33: All of these interactions had us settle on the idea that this was enormously amenable to restratification. People under age 50 without any medical problems, unless they presented with severe symptoms, they were going to be fine. Honestly. It was going to be like a head cold.

But over age 50, there became a real risk of hospitalization and death. And the two important endpoints, the two important endpoints, were hospitalization and death. You ask Americans, “What are you afraid of? Are you afraid of getting a cold and being at home for a few days or a few weeks?” / “Nah. I’m afraid, I’m deathly afraid of being hospitalized and obviously afraid of dying.”

@10:09: Why was the hospitalization so, so frightening? Because for the first time, patients would be hospitalized, they were put into isolation, they could never see their loved ones again. Those who died actually never did see their loved ones again.

The workers were terrified. They were wearing personal protective equipment, they had very reduced visitation to patients in rooms, they started using telemedicine services where the poor patients were in, glass rooms, no one was coming in and seeing them. And the care that was offered was modest. Honestly it was supportive care until patients needed to go on respirators. So to sit in the hospital on oxygen, terrified, day by day by day – no one being able to come in the room, not being able to see their family, these messages got out to other family members and it put America on watch, with extraordinary fear.

Now over the last year, I’ve published, and I’ve managed to get this out despite the, our incredibly difficult publication cycles, I’ve published 40 peer-reviewed papers on covid-19. That may be more than anybody in America. One of my very first papers, the title of it, and the paper dealt with ‘what are the important outcomes?‘ That’s hospitalization and death. And when I started to see that scoreboard come up on the major media channels, where it listed positive cases and death, and all the Americans remember this, this was up there almost instantaneously, it came from Johns Hopkins, instantaneously, it was cases and deaths.

And I kind of wondered, how did they get that information so quickly? That was, amazing. We don’t have death certifications and other things that are very rapid at all on who can be determining this. But at any rate, it was up there. And what I said was, I said, “What really what we need to know is who’s being hospitalized?” Because if we can’t figure out who’s being hospitalized, and we can’t figure out where the hospitalizations are occurring, we don’t know where to allocate resources.

So I published a paper on this in the journal that I edit, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine, I immediately wanted to reach the American public; I published an op-ed in The Hill, which is a newsletter out of Washington, and I said, “Listen. There’s an emergent need, we need the hospitalizations.” And I screamed as loud as I could to the administration to say, “Listen. Get an Executive Order to get the U.S. hospital census everyday so we can see what was going on.”

It never happened. We got an Executive Order to get the positive test results to come in from all the major laboratories, and through the hospital laboratories, because all the tests for the virus were under the emergency use authorization. So it was linked to an Executive Order. So the positive tests were just coming in to the Johns Hopkins Center, so we knew who was testing positive;

@13:00: There was no control over duplicates, by the way, so if a patient had one or two or three tests, unless the system had a way of actually filtering out these duplicates, those piled on, and it really didn’t take into consideration who was sick and who wasn’t sick.

So we just had test positive, and then we had the deaths, which started to take on a cadence of trailing by about 4 weeks after the positive test cases. But that whole death ascertainment was a real mystery to Americans. And what I said, I think was around March or April, I basically made this statement relatively publicly. I said, “Listen, there are two bad outcomes. Hospitalization and death. I’m going to put together a team of doctors, and figure out how to stop these hospitalizations and death.”

@13:50: I felt compelled, as an academic leader in medicine, if no one in the White House can say that, no one in the White House task force can say that, if no one in the FDA can say that, or the NIH or the CDC, and Americans were pouring into hospitals and dying, no one can make that courageous statement uniquely, and individually, and alone – I made that statement.

How did you conceptualize the problem of Covid-19 and how to deal with it?

@14:20: We had… as our country’s leadership, an inability to frame the problem. The problem was, there was a virus, it was popping up in clusters in the United States. And in most people it was causing a cold, and they got through it just fine. And other people it was leading to hospitalization and death. But we couldn’t frame the problem that the virus in some people causes hospitalization and death. Let’s stop it! Let’s stop the hospitalizations and death. Let’s treat the virus.

We could not frame that problem. Our leaders couldn’t frame the problem. I personally didn’t have any problem framing the problem. It’s a bad thing. If there was another form of pneumonia out there, I would’ve said the same thing. Another form of newly acquired asthma, another form of urogenital infection or gastrointestinal infection.

@15:17: Ebola had just been actually in Dallas, a few years earlier, and I think ebola hurt us in terms of our thinking. Because ebola was so terribly contagious and so quickly fatal, that the fear that ebola created in Dallas was extraordinary. I’ll never forget it. Our medical center, one time I tried to get in one of the usual doors that I go into and there was a police officer there. I said, “What’s going on?” He goes, “We’re here to block anybody with ebola from coming in our hospital. We’re going to shunt them to Presbyterian Hospital north of us.” When do we “shunt” patients away from one hospital?… – The fear that ebola created because of this idea was terribly contagious and fatal quickly – I think set us on edge.

And with SARS CoV-2 virus, what we learned is, the average person sits at home for two weeks! There’s no immediate lethality to the virus. In fact we’ve got a long window of time to make a diagnosis, organize treatment, and prevent hospitalization and death. So SARS CoV-2 was very different from ebola.

But we look at other conditions where we readily accept the fact that somebody can fall ill at home, but if we start treatment early, with an infection, we can save the patient. That exists for community acquired pneumonias. It occurs for various forms of staph infection, including Staphylococcal toxic shock syndrome. It occurs for Diverticulitis and abdominal conditions. It occurs for skin infections, various forms of cellulitis, it occurs for meningitis.

@17:03: And for instance, if someone had a form of meningitis, we wouldn’t say, “Listen, sit at home for two weeks. And then if you’re really really bad, and you’re having seizures, and you can’t even breathe anymore, then come in the hospital and we’ll start treatment.”

So the different, unique aspect of the medical response to SARS CoV-2 and covid-19 was for the first time we had an infectious disease, where the medical community settled into a groupthink – and this was supported, by the NIH, the CDC, the FDA, the American Medical Association, all the medical societies, it was supported by these societies – (long pause) …to tell doctors, “Don’t touch this virus. Let patients stay at home. Let them get as sick as humanly possible, and then when they can’t breathe anymore, then go to the hospital.”

In fact, it was shocking, October 8th (2020), when the National Institutes of Health came out with their first set of treatment guidelines, because prior to that, none of the societies had any treatment guidelines! They actually didn’t tell doctors how to treat the illness. Now there was suggestions about what should be done in the hospital, but Americans cared about what was going on when they got sick at home.

And the first set of guidelines said, “You get sick at home, don’t do anything. Don’t do anything. Come into the hospital when you really can’t breathe.” / Still don’t do anything, until a patient needs oxygen. Then start doing something.” Like then actually give the first anti-viral drug, which was Remdesivir.

Well that’s 14 days after the virus had already started replicating! By that time the virus is long gone. When people can’t breathe the problem is micro blood clotting in the lungs.

So the federal agencies – the CDC, the NIH and the FDA – were enormously inept in terms of perceiving what this problem was. Incredibly inept in applying any type of judgement or direction to doctors. And what had happened among the doctors was, “We’re so terribly frightened, we’re not going to do anything unless we have the intellectual support from our associations, from our federal agencies, from our medical societies.”

And it was just the opposite of what medicine had always been. Medicine had always been, early innovation by doctors, empiric treatment, small studies, randomized trials and then sponsored large randomized trials, in that order. And then after large randomized trials, then guidelines bodies would then look at all those large randomized trials, make determinations of what should be done, and then those guidelines bodies would issue guidelines and then the federal agencies would file the guidelines.

That’s exactly what we do for mammography, colonoscopy, treatment of myocardial infarction, treatment of pneumonia, it always started out with early empiricism, then getting to guidelines and agency’s statements years later.

Why was there an assumption that nothing could be done to treat people in the early stages of Covid-19 infection?

@20:00: It was a dangerous assumption. To assume there’s nothing that one can do for a fatal infection, is enormous blunder. It’s a blunder by citizens. It’s a blunder by health responders. And it’s a massive blunder by agencies. Can you imagine, let’s make an assumption. And could our assumption lead to the absolute worst possible outcome, which would be hospitalization and death. Or we could make another assumption. And say, “You know what? It’s treatable. We’re going to try to treat it.”

Which dangerous – which assumption is more dangerous? Absolutely the dangerous assumption is to do nothing. The dangerous – you can take any example. Let’s make an assumption on… traffic safety. You can assume that traffic safety rules and lines and stop signs and seat belts do something. Or you can assume they don’t. Let’s try. And let’s have a free-for-all out on the streets right now and see what happens versus paying attention to some rules.

@21:00: We never make assumptions that are dangerous to people. And the thing that really worried me about this whole thing is this series of extraordinarily dangerous assumptions. Can you imagine a senior citizen who has heart and lung disease, recovered from cancer, has some kidney disease, is handed a diagnostic test result and says, “Here. You have covid-19. Now you have your fatal diagnosis. Our recommendations, based on the assumption we can’t do anything, is: go home, and wait it out. – And when that panic, and that fear, and that breathlessness, and fever, is SO overwhelming, when you can’t bear it anymore! – then, go to the hospital.”

And how do people go to the hospital? They call family members. They contaminate all their family members. They call EMS. Uber drivers. Taxi drivers. Every hospitalization in America was a super spreader event.

So this “assumption” that there’s nothing we could do, and giving somebody a fatal diagnosis, with no instructions, led to a massive amplification of cases. So what we could have assumed, and what I did assume, was that there are some principles we could adopt from other precedents.

For example, every form of pneumonia known to man does better if treated early. Even influenza. And that’s the reason why, Tamiflu, as an example, and there’s an analogous product, are FDA approved for the treatment of influenza. They have some partial effect. Now do we ever use Tamiflu alone? No! We typically combine it with other drugs to get patients through the illness. There are supportive respiratory drugs. There are forms of inhalers. What’s called beta agonist inhalers and steroid inhalers. We use those liberally in forms of emphysema, pneumonia, asthma, allergic pneumonitis.

There’s other things that we can do to help patients get through the syndrome. The inflammatory nature of this syndrome became very interesting. We understand that antihistamines, as an example, Montelukast, aspirin, steroids, corticosteroids, play an important role.

@23:17: If I had an asthmatic at home, I wouldn’t say, “Listen. Sit at home for two weeks until you can’t breathe anymore and then go into the hospital.” Are you kidding me? I’d put that asthmatic on inhalers, I probably would use some empiric antibiotics in that patient and then some steroids, and I’d prevent the hospitalization to the best I could.

So I approached covid-19, respiratory illness, like any other with the following thought. And we pretty quickly put together our approach based on other precedents including influenza, including asthma, including bacterial pneumonia, as follows: that this was going to be amenable to restratification, those under age 50 who had no pulmonary symptoms, they could simply ride through the illness.

@23:59: We had data suggesting that nutritional deficiencies seemed to increase the risk for hospitalization and death. And so that’s where the nutraceuticals came in early on, that there was supportive data – not curative – but supportive data for zinc, for vitamin D, vitamin C, and interestingly a polyphenol substance called quercetin. There was some others that were considered, including lysine, and N-acetyl cysteine, they became what we call the nutraceutical bundle.

So is it kind of reasonable to do that in patients? I would say yeah, if it’s linked to mortality, we don’t know anything else, there’s no harm in these supplements, they’re readily available, people can buy them. So we recommended the nutraceutical bundle for those under age 50, and really no medical treatment. That amounted to roughly of people getting ill at the time, probably 2/3 to 3/4 of patients really needing no treatment.

However, if someone below age 50 have medical problems, presented with severe symptoms, or over age 50 with medical problems, it became clear that the rates of hospitalization or death were greater than 1%, that was enough, greater than 1% – it’s kind of the magic number in this whole equation, that’s enough to do something. That’s enough to do something.

We knew somebody at age 60, for instance, would face about an 18% chance of hospitalization and death. 18% chance, that’s too high. In my field, cardiology, our guidelines say anything more than 5% is high risk. 1 to 5% is moderate, less than 1% is low risk. In general, for anything less than 1%, we don’t go after it. So in this low risk group, we didn’t go after it. But age over 50, young people presenting with severe symptoms, we went after it. So it was nutraceutical bundle.

What did we know next? The timeline was very interesting. We knew from SARS CoV-1, SARS 1, that’s 80% similar to SARS CoV-2. We knew from studies dating back to 2006 that hydroxychloroquine, a drug that’s used for lupus, used for rheumatoid arthritis, it’s used for other rheumatologic conditions, including dry eyes, as well as malaria: safe, was effective in reducing the viral replication in SARS CoV-1, we knew that. And so the United States knew that.

@26:17: In fact, that drug was stock-piled by the United States government, Australian governments, some European governments, the hydroxychloroquine was on boarded appropriately, and ready to rock and roll. In fact, many countries front-lined hydroxychloroquine for high risk patients and still do so today. People go to Athens, Greece, Rome, Italy, across all of eastern Europe, central and South America; hydroxychloroquine is the lead drug. India and East Asia, hydroxychloroquine is the lead drug. So hydroxychloroquine played a role.

We also knew that by the summer, we knew that ivermectin played a role. This is an anti-parasitic drug used for scabies and other illnesses. Safe and effective.

So these drugs – how – the reason why they work against the virus is they get inside cells. A lot of antibiotics like penicillin doesn’t get inside the cell. But these, what’s called intracellular anti-infectives do. Japan, had an influenza drug that had the exact same activity as remdesivir – their first U.S. approved inpatient IV drug; that drug’s called favipiravir. And the Japanese had data to suggest that favipiravir, like oral remdesivir, would play a role early on. And it was readily approved by 5 countries, FDA approved – FDA equivalent approved in those countries to treat covid-19.

So we had hydroxychloroquine, we had ivermectin, we have favipiravir, we combine it with either doxycycline or azithromycin, and those are antibiotics Americans know about. They get inside of cells, they’re also intracellular anti-infectives, and they were slightly assistive in a couple ways. They cut down on some of the bacterial super infection that would occur in the sinuses or respiratory tract.

And we knew from some studies that there was about a 3% overlap between covid-19 and what’s called atypical pneumonias. Which would be mycoplasma, chlamydia pneumoniae, and these would also be responsive to these. So quickly, hydroxyzine, azithro, ivermectin and doxy – these were common – favipiravir and doxy outside of the United States, became common intracellular anti-infectives.

But those alone didn’t carry the day. Because what happened is the viral replication tipped off what’s called cytokine storm, or the immune system going haywire. And so doctors early on in the hospitals started using steroids. And we had some confusing literature – are they hurting, are they helping? And the British helped out a lot with the study and inpatient study called ‘the recovery trial’. And the recovery trial picked an odd corticosteroid, which was dexamethasone, in an odd dose, 6 milligrams a day. We typically use like 10 milligrams, 4 times a day. So an odd dose, but did show a small reduction in mortality.

And there was a meta-analysis published, looking at hydrocortisone, prednisone, it turned out any steroid worked, in some reasonable dose. So in the United States we quickly adopt using prednisone, which we use in asthma frequently. And then another trial in the UK was done called the ‘stoic trial’ using inhaled budesonide.

@29:13: Now that was a very interesting development, because there was a maverick doctor, former military doctor, Richard Bartlett from west Texas. He even made the national news by saying, “You know what? I think inhaled budesonide works.” And he said this early in the spring. And he was on national news, he says, “I’m trying it. I’m a doctor, I’m trying to help my patients, I am using empiric treatment. I know there’s no randomized trials.” But he was doing the right thing. That’s what American doctors ALL should have been doing, is trying to help their patients by taking empiric choices on drugs that make clinical sense, and he tried it! And indeed it worked. The British did the stoic trial, and sure enough, there was over an 80% reduction in hospitalization if we just used inhaled budesonide in outpatients with covid-19. So that made it on board.

Montreal Heart Institute, one of the leading overall randomized control trial centers in the world, got funding from the National Institutes of Health, Gates Foundation, Canadian authorities, and tested a gout drug which works against the immune system, particularly works against the white blood cells and their ability to proliferate toxic granules and assemble microtubules, that drug is called colchicine. And so Americans would recognize this as a gout drug. They carried out and conducted a prospector randomized trial, double blind for 30 days, the best quality trial done in all of covid-19, and they demonstrated that there was a marked reduction in hospitalization and deaths. So colchicine came on board.

And so the last thing that we really had to look at was blood clotting. And to this day there has not been a single outpatient study of drugs to impair platelet aggregation or antithrombotics, however we can learn from inpatient studies and there’s been very good analyses, they all agree, the use of full dose aspirin in the hospital is associated with reductions in mortality, and the use of full dose anticoagulation, whether that be injectable low molecular heparin, full heparinization, or we could even use oral anticoagulents as an outpatient, is associated with reductions in mortality.

So what I had been doing is I was working with the Italians, looking at how these concepts were coming together, and I published a paper in the American Journal of Medicine on August of 2020. And I have to tell you, when I looked at the literature through the spring, working with the Italians… (long pause)… there had been, by the time I submitted the paper on July 1st, there were 55,000 papers in the peer-review literature. Not a single one taught doctors how to put drugs in combination and treat the virus.

And it seems so odd to me. We knew this was a fatal viral infection; in fatal viral infections single drugs never work! We knew this in HIV. We knew that we needed multiple drugs in HIV. We knew this for hepatitis C. We knew this for all the other fatal viral infections. We use drug combinations. Never single drugs. And the only thing we can do at that time is look at studies of single drugs, and find signals of benefit, acceptable safety, and then assemble them into regiments.

The clinical trials testing a 4 to 6 drug regiment… those haven’t even been planned yet. I mean, the mortality rate would have been astronomical if somebody didn’t step forward and have the courage to publish the concepts. And I guess that’s what my role is in world’s history for this.

@32:44: I published a paper called the “Pathophysiologic Rationale for Early Ambulatory Treatment of Covid-19”. And it was published in the August issue of 2020 of the American Journal of Medicine. To this day, that’s the most widely downloaded paper from that journal of all topics. And, it went viral. And… literally. It went viral because the world was thirsting for an approach to covid-19.

Now, quickly after that was published I was managing all different types of communications regarding the paper; scientific and then also media related, and we have supportive data now coming in strong for ivermectin, for colchicine, for inhaled steroids, and Operation Warp Speed had delivered monoclonal antibodies directed against the spike protein, the pathogenic part of the virus. And they included a product from Lilly and another one from Regeneron.

So I needed to update the algorithm, and I put that together and published that in the journal that I edit “Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine”, but with a separate issue and a separate unbiased editor that I didn’t have influence on to make sure that was fully peer-reviewed and vetted, which it was, and that was published in “Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine” in August of 2020.

@34:00: By that time there was a 100,000 papers in the literature, and outside of my first paper, there wasn’t a single other paper that actually proposed a regiment or protocol to treat patients with covid-19. It was almost extraordinary, that we were over 9 months into a fatal pandemic influencing the world, and no one could come up with an original idea? Of how to put drugs in combination to treat the virus?

We didn’t have the Harvard protocol, we didn’t have the Johns Hopkins protocol, we didn’t have UCLA, we didn’t have a World Health protocol… So this was extraordinary, that all the firepower we had in academic medicine, couldn’t – they just drew a blank. Matter of fact, if you look at these centers across the United States and across the world, they never opened up covid treatment centers. They didn’t have outpatient covid treatment centers. They didn’t attempt to study or help a single outpatient with covid-19.

Why were there not more doctors speaking out or offering solutions for early treatment of Covid-19?

@35:05: My contribution was… I think the ability to publish the ideas. [off camera: “OK.”] This is very important. Others had the ideas. In fact, Vladimir Zelenko in New York City, an Orthodox Jew, stepped out of the box, he said, “Listen. We need to treat this. We can use some drugs in combination… hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, steroids, other drugs”, and he started putting drugs in combination.

Richard Bartlett in west Texas, Brian Tyson and George Fareed, former NIH scientist George Fareed came out of retirement: they went to really the crucible of covid-19 down in California / Mexico border, and just opened up a clinic and had opened up a tent; people started walking up and they started treating them.

Didier Raoult in southern France said, “Listen. We can treat this.” Him and a group of courageous French doctors opened up a large clinic in southern France and started treating patients.

We had Ivette [Yvette] Lozano in Dallas. She took her general practice building, on, by White Rock Lake, and turned it into a covid treatment center. She converted all her rooms to treating patients with covid. Oxygen concentrators and all the drugs – there’s pictures of patients lining up on the side walk to receive treatment.

So it’s interesting how the innovators were all independent, courageous doctors, and the academic medical centers drew a blank. They couldn’t even pitch a tent to help people. And to me it was stunning that the academic medical centers, or even the large community centers, couldn’t help a single outpatient. They couldn’t even provide a patient brochure of what should be done. The CDC offered guidance like, “Take some tylenol and if you get really sick go to the hospital.”

The response to a treatable outpatient problem, they gave us two weeks, of opportunity to do something; the lack of that anemic, the lack of that response was stunning. And it had to do, in my view, because of a whole timeline of events that put a chill on the attempts to treat covid-19. The doctors and health systems and others, I think, in a relatively short order became actively discouraged, from treating covid-19.

I can tell you, I never got an encouraging email or phone call saying, “You know what? Do the best you can for your patients. Try to help them. These hospitalizations are terrible. Please. We support you in using your best judgement.” Or, “Here’s a few suggested things you can do.” I never got any of those emails from medical societies, from others –

In fact, there was only one medical organization – just like there’s, you know, a few courageous medical doctors – there was one courageous medical organization, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, that saw what was going on. And interestingly that organization is an organization that represents independent doctors. Not those employed by hospitals, or big medical groups, or medical schools, but independent doctors. And they saw what was going on, and the first thing that they attacked was the stockpile of hydroxychloroquine.

So what happened was, the U.S. had an ample supply of hydroxychloroquine. And the only issue was, start using it – and start putting it into combination with the other drugs to treat covid-19. It seemed terrific. And the first event in the timeline was the FDA emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine.

@38:34: So the listener should understand that an emergency use authorization would be for a brand new drug or product, where there is a great unmet need, there’s not enough time to do all the testing, and that we would do an EUA for that. There’s a government mechanism for that; it’s under emergency circumstances. That wouldn’t apply to hydroxychloroquine. It was already fully FDA approved, it was out for 65 years, it was safe, we had used it in pregnancy, we knew all of its safety profile, doctors knew how to use hydroxychloroquine; I used it in my practice, it was just not a big deal. It didn’t need a EUA.

But so the EUA went out on hydroxychloroquine and said, you know, this EUA, with language, and it says “restricting hydroxychloroquine to inpatient use”. Okay. And so, one of the first big studies out of the block was done in thousands of patients out of Henry Ford. And it was great news! That hydroxychloroquine was associated with a large reduction in mortality, if applied early. But the later it was applied in the hospital stay, it didn’t look like – patients were too far gone.

I wrote the response to that in several publications across the, across the United States. And one was an op-ed in The Hill. Cause as I saw this, I basically made the case that emergency use authorization was an effective restriction. It should be lifted and we should use hydroxychloroquine wide open. And then something really terrible happened. Keep in mind that the Henry Ford data was very positive, we had the EUA, the U.S. had stockpiled it…

The National Institutes of Health, the Allergy and Immunology branch, had commissioned a several thousand prospective, double blind randomized placebo controlled trial of hydroxychloroquine, and azithromycin in outpatients with covid-19. They had funded the trial. They got the drug supply. They got the placebos. They set up all the studies centers in the United States. We were all ready to go. That was in the spring. Terrific! Everything is coming together.

@40:40: And then what happened was a fake paper was published in Lancet. A fake paper. Now Lancet, the listeners should understand that Lancet is like the New England Journal of Medicine. It’s one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world. And when a paper is submitted, there are so many checks on validity: “Where is the paper coming from? Where are the data coming from? Validating the data?” Then it’s sent out to peer reviewers who are independent. They check everything in the paper, they give comments about: “Was this reported? Was that reported?” What have you. So many checks on papers and then it comes back and then there’s an editorial decision made on a paper, and then it’s published. That’s called peer-review. That ensures to the public that papers are not fake. It’s very important. It ensures to the public that things are not falsified.

Well this paper had authors from Harvard, it came from a company called Surgisphere that no one really understood what this company was about. And the data was a large data set of inpatients with covid-19 from all over the world that had in depth drug exposure data. We didn’t have that back then. You know, that was from December, January, February, this was just emergent. We didn’t have this. The average age in that paper was 49 years old. And the paper implied that use of hydroxychloroquine was dangerous. And Lancet published this falsified paper.

Somehow it fell through all the other peer-review, and how can they possibly publish it? And as soon as it came out, I knew in 2 seconds that it had to be wrong. We don’t hospitalize people in their 40’s. And hydroxychloroquine, in fact, is associated with benefit, not harm.

@42:24: This paper in Lancet, frightened the entire world. It was like a shockwave. And there was a whole series of reactions. People started publishing papers, “Oh, hydroxychloroquine could be dangerous.” All these academic doctors, “Case closed. Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t work. Stop using it.” Hospitals started pulling it off the formularies. It was extraordinary what happened with hydroxychloroquine. In fact, the USFDA put out language, that said, “Hydroxychloroquine shouldn’t be used, period! We’re canceling the EUA for inpatient use, and it shouldn’t be used, period!”

So that FDA language then went to the AMA. And the AMA says, “Well don’t use hydroxychloroquine, period. Inpatient, or outpatient.” That went to the pharmacy boards. Pharmacy boards said, “Oh, doctors shouldn’t be using this.” So as doctors were treating patients in the community, prescribing hydroxychloroquine, next thing you know, patients would show up to the pharmacy and the pharmacist said, “Sorry, I can’t dispense it. My board says that I can’t.” And then doctors licenses started to become threatened. And then, you know, then all of a sudden there was a cascade of events, hydroxychloroquine being the lead, that put a chilling effect on anybody’s attempt to treat covid-19 as an outpatient.

Why did the regulatory authorities and mainstream media tell the public that Hydroxychloroquine was dangerous and ineffective?

@43:40: Hydroxychloroquine, I think the fair statements are, it’s the most studied and utilized therapeutic in the world for covid-19 to date. There are hundreds and hundreds of studies. And hydroxychloroquine was appropriately acquired and stockpiled by the U.S. government. President Trump, who I personally think was very weak in the response, he could not articulate that hospitalizations and deaths were a serious problem. He could not assemble a team of doctors who were learning how to treat covid-19. Neither could the NIH, or the CDC, or FDA. We had gross failures from U.S. presidents and the major agencies.

Can you imagine to this day, we still have not had a doctor in any position of authority in the United States, who’s actually ever seen a patient with covid-19 and treated them. None! It is extraordinary what’s happened. So how, President Trump mentioned hydroxychloroquine, let’s try to give it a shot. And then immediately he was bashed down by his detractors. I thought it was a very weak statement to begin with. But he was bashed down. And people have always held him up as, oh, it was Trump. If he hadn’t mentioned hydroxychloroquine none of this would’ve happened.

I disagree. I think, that there was an enormous effort to suppress early treatment, and hydroxychloroquine was initial lightning rod. Remember I mentioned that NIH trial? You know what they did after 20 patients? Disingenuously, they said they couldn’t find covid-19 patients, and they shut down several thousand patient trial. They shut it down after 20 patients. That never happens! They purchased the placebo. They found the study centers. They had the binders. They had the nurses hired. They had everybody ready to treat Americans with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin and they gave up after 20 patients. That was extraordinary.

@45:30: The false paper published in Lancet was extraordinary. We started to have an array of incredibly flawed papers publishing exaggerating cardiac effects of hydroxychloroquine. “Oh, it could cause dangerous arrhythmias.” There was one that I mentioned in my U.S. Senate testimony, it came from the Mayo clinic, it said hydroxychloroquine could cause a scar in the heart. They actually, they had a heart, and they showed a huge white scar. In fact, I ultimately hunted down that paper, hunted down the authors, and the publisher, and I demanded a retraction. Ultimately I got a conciliatory letter published saying, “You know what? We’re sorry. It doesn’t really cause a scar in the heart.” So people started to intentionally try to damage hydroxychloroquine so it would not be used in covid-19.

Yet, other countries held with it steadfast. I mentioned all the countries to this day that use hydroxychloroquine. And now we have studies, for instance, a study from Iran, in 30,000 patients! A massive study. And they treat about 25% of people appropriately of hydroxychloroquine in combination with other drugs. And it has a massive reduction in mortality. So hydroxychloroquine was a mainstay, the prospective randomized trials, we just isolate on them, pre-hospital studies are all positive, now is it a game changer? No. I’d say it’s about a 25% reduction in endpoints. But it’s a very useful drug, to get started early. It’s not a single drug, it wouldn’t rely on it alone, but hydroxychloroquine itself, I think is a poster child for what happened.

You know, early on in this, I became of national attention. I received calls from the White House. I was contacted by the U.S. Senate. I became known on social media which I was never on social media before. I’m not an immunologist, I’m not a virologist, I’m not an infectious disease doctor. But I’m a good clinical doctor and I understand drugs. And I understand drug safety very well.

@47:24: Hydroxychloroquine had a signal benefit, acceptable safety. I was contacted by doctors in Africa, that anonymously told me, “Dr. McCullough, there are some bad guys raiding the pharmacies at night, and they’re coming in and burning the hydroxychloroquine.” I said, “Who are these bad guys?” They said, “We don’t know. But they look like they’re some type of mercenaries or operatives.” Mysteriously, the second largest hydroxychloroquine producing plant outside of Taipei burned to the ground.

So… hydroxychloroquine, as a simple, safe and effective drug, to this day seems to be a poster child for worldwide comprehensive efforts to suppress early treatment.

And of interest, as the data came on with ivermectin, ivermectin became the next drug. Now of interest with ivermectin, there was an associated group that formed, called the Front – the Frontline Critical Care Consortium, the FLCCC – it was led by Pierre Kory; I identified him, and Dr. Paul Merrick, I communicated with him, we had teleconferences, and I recommended Dr. Kory testify at the second U.S. Senate hearings in December. Also Dr. J.J. Rajter from Florida. Dr. Rajter had tried ivermectin in all of his sick patients in Florida hospitals and was enormously successful in reducing mortality, published his paper in CHEST, one of the best pulmonary journals, so I give him tremendous credit for that.

And so Dr. Kory and Dr. Rajter presented what became a very compelling case for ivermectin. If people were sufficiently turned off by hydroxychloroquine, we could focus on ivermectin. Dr. Tess Lawrie, who’s considered one of the world’s most prominent analysts in the UK, published – and Dr. Andrew Hill as well, published incredible analyses demonstrating that ivermectin reduced mortality inpatient and outpatient. So a little different than hydroxychloroquine. Hydroxychloroquine takes a little time to work, and probably doesn’t work at the very end of the illness, but ivermectin miraculously worked through the range of illness.

And so the data started coming on for ivermectin and there was enough push power for emphasis on the National Institutes of Health guidelines where they made a specific statement regarding ivermectin. They said, “You know what? We understand the data with ivermectin, we can’t be for it, and we can’t be against it.” It’s the same statement that they made for the emergency use Regeneron and Lilly antibodies. The NIH said, “We understand the data. We can’t be for it or against it.” But at least we got a neutral statement out of them.

@50:07: Hydroxychloroquine still to this day has a series of negative statements on this, and doctors have literally had to fight for their medical licenses in order to prescribe hydroxychloroquine. One by one by one, all of those licenses have been restored. All of those state rulings have been overturned. All the medical societies have been overturned. And hydroxychloroquine is used today. Ivermectin is widely used today.

Both drugs, can not only treat the infection early, but they can prevent the – there’s prophylactic studies – they can prevent, if patients take these drugs periodically, typically once a week or so, they can prevent covid-19 from becoming an illness. They are preventive. In fact, I led one of the very early studies of hydroxychloroquine here in Dallas to protect our health care workers, that these drugs are about 90% effective. They are about as effective as the vaccines in preventing/acquiring covid-19.

When someone’s ill, I never prescribe these drugs alone, but I prescribe them in what I call sequence multi-drug therapy. But that is the approach that independent doctors have taken in the United States. And uniquely not a single academic medical center today, or community medical center today treats covid-19 patients as an outpatient with the goal of reducing hospitalizations and deaths. Why would these centers not want to help their patients?

Why didn’t more doctors resist the directives against providing early outpatient care for their patients?

@51:43: You know, doctors clearly have a groupthink, and doctors want intellectual support for what they do. That’s the reason why we meet all the time, that’s the reason why we go on rounds together, that’s the reason why we have conferences every day. We want to intellectually support each other for making decisions on patients for the assurances we’re making the right decisions.

And what happened was with the pandemic, all of our meetings were dissolved, we could not meet with each other anymore, there wasn’t a chance to have much intellectual support. And each doctor, one by one, had to make a decision. When the next patient called and said, “Listen. I’m sick with covid-19. Can you help me?” There was a binary choice. The choice was, “Nope. I’m not going to help you. Nothing works. There’s nothing I can do. Just wait until you get hospitalized.” or the answer could be, “You know what? Let me try.”

And what we found is that binary choice was the biopsy of who really had courage and who really had excellent clinical judgement. And doctors who were not confident in their clinical judgement quickly said, “You know what? There’s nothing you can do.” And they got into that groupthink. And that could’ve been 90%+ of doctors had a.) a lack of clinical judgement, and a lack of courage. And what I found in this whole thing is those two things are rare. And for me, it was just very natural. It was very natural.

My, my father was one of the first nursing home covid-19 patients in Dallas. He was the very first one at Presbyterian Village. He got covid-19, had pelvic fracture, he’s flat on his back, a scared PA says, “Your dad’s got covid. He’s in a unit. We don’t know what’s going to happen.” His mortality being completely bedridden, with dementia, and now covid, I can tell you, he was facing an 80% mortality of just having covid just ravage him.

So what did I do? Did I make that binary decision of doing nothing? Of course not! Of course not! If I could ever message any American doctor, or any doctor in the world right now, “Have some courage, and trust your clinical judgement.” I did. And that’s what real doctors do. And I will never apologize for that.

Of course my dad was treated with hydroxychloroquine. He was treated with azithromycin. He was treated with aspirin. We put him on lovenox, is a blood thinner. The full nutraceutical bundle. Zinc, vitamin C, vitamin D, quercetin, open the windows, get that virus aired out there. And he got really sick, as expected. He had dementia, his wishes were to not go to the hospital. Not go on a mechanical ventilator, we treated him right there. It took 60 days, and it was a long illness. But he survived. And that was early.

@54:44: And that taught me that if I’m willing to do that for my father, I have a Hippocratic Oath, and I have a fiduciary responsibility to my patients. And I refuse to let my patients die of this illness. And when I testified at the U.S. Senate, I told the American people, I have always treated my high-risk patients. Always. And at the end of my opening statement, I held up the protocol, and I told the American people, “I’m not asking for permission to do this. I’m not. But I’m asking for your help.”

That’s a very, very important statement. Because my patients were appropriately treated to the best of my ability. And we have 600,000 dead Americans, that were not treated appropriately, and not treated to the best of the ability of their doctors. And that will go down in historical shame for our country. I think it is a travesty that we have 600,000 dead Americans, not – vast majority of them didn’t get an ounce of treatment – in fact there were medical groups that adopted policies that they weren’t even going to answer the calls of covid-19 patients, and they were millions of patients needlessly hospitalized.

We had data that came in later from Dr. Zelenko in New York City, Dr. Proctor here in Dallas, who did the same exact thing, showing that our methods could reduce hospitalization and death by 85%. And I’m sorry, there are no prospective randomized trials of 4-6 drugs; there are none planned, so therefore, without any large trials, there are not going to be any guideline statements, and without any guideline statements, we’ll never have any agency’s support for this.

@56:33: But this is about courageous doctors saving Americans, and I would go farther than this. This is about courageous doctors saving the world. So now we have the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons. We have FLCC in the United States. We have 250 treating doctors. We have 4 national telemedicine services, 15 regional telemedicine services. We’re treating 10-15 thousand patients a day.

Forget the U.S. government. Forget what anybody says about this. Americans are getting treatment. That once our message on early treatment came with two U.S. Senate hearings, headed by Senator Ron Johnson, the hospitals started clearing out in the end of December / early January, because early treatment markedly reduces spread and dramatically reduces hospitalization and death. It’s the only thing that does that. The hospital doesn’t save all the patients. I’d say the hospital honestly has a very modest impact on anything with covid-19. It’s all about early treatment. The hospitals started clearing out, the curves came way down in the United States. That’s before anybody was fully vaccinated.

And I testified in the Texas Senate on March 10th [2021], I said, “Listen. we’re at by standard CDC equations, we’re at herd immunity!” By March 10th! No vaccine effect. That’s actually just treating patients. In Texas, we had 35 treatment centers, out protocols and methods work, and I have learned over time there are so many ways to treat the virus.

I’ve had a seminar with Dr. Shankara Chetty in South Africa, he said that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, just like in the United States, had become so politically charged, doctors were losing their license, in fact, some doctors were jailed in trying to help patients with covid-19. He gave up on them!

He’s treated 4,000 patients, fewer than 10% got hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, he treats them, he times the illness. He waits to day 8 and then he starts inhaled and oral steroids, he starts aspirin, other anti-inflammatories, Montelukast, and the high-risk patients he uses anticoagulants on the back-end. And he saved virtually everyone outside of a handful of patients. Out of 4,000. Sick patients in South Africa.

@58:34: So what I’ve learned about this virus is if doctors do anything, to try to help patients, they can reduce hospitalizations and death. And the only reason why this is such a horrible thing in American history is because doctors failed to act.

Why, when it came to Covid-19, did so many doctors agree to depart from longstanding medical practice in terms of seeking and formulating early outpatient treatments for their patients?

@58:56: The USFDA puts out thousands of drug warnings per year. In fact, Americans know this, cause they see a drug advertised on TV and it says, “Warning: may cause death. And may cause – what have you.” So we get thousands of warnings per year. FDA recalls drugs, put black box warnings on drugs. Doctors still use these drugs. They understand the warnings. About 40% of drugs are used off the advertising labels. So once a drug is older it’s original advertising label doesn’t really apply, so we use drugs quote “off-label” all the time. That’s common.

But what happened in covid-19, is because of the tremendous fear that settled in over our country. Whatever statements came out by the USFDA, the NIH, the CDC, started to take more weight than they ever would in the past. So if those agencies said something, like, “Don’t use hydroxychloroquine”, that emanated down through the AMA and each of the pharmacy boards where they actually denied patients hydroxychloroquine.

In fact, there are probably patients who died, because the pharmacy did not dispense the hydroxychloroquine to patients. Or the ivermectin. There are doctors who started getting warning letters, stating – Dr. Richard Urso from Houston, and another doctor stepped out of his role like I did to treat the virus, got warning letters from the Texas Medical Board: “We’re going to examine your license. We understand you’re prescribing hydroxychloroquine, trying to help covid patients.” Okay?

These doctors, like Dr. Robin Armstrong, Dr. Robin Armstrong, in Texas, saved dozens of nursing home patients with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin and steroids and blood thinners. The families think he’s a hero; the Texas Medical Board tried to take away his license. And so he had to go through hearings and reviews and ultimately he was restored, although he was, his practice was just damaged, if not destroyed.

@1:00:50: Emails started coming down through big medical organizations, “Don’t use hydroxychloroquine.” They later on came down and said, “Don’t use ivermectin.” In fact, there was, you know, flat out, “Don’t do it!” We were getting official messages that basically said, “Don’t take care of covid-19.” These are codified in policies and emails by major medical organizations. And it went counter – can you imagine getting an email saying, “Don’t treat pneumococcal pneumonia! Just let them die. Don’t treat meningitis. Let them die.”

Can you ever – we’ve never seen this, this – the term that applies to what’s going on is wrongdoing by those in positions of authority. It’s called malfeasance. We don’t put down a chilling negative message that’s going to result in harm. We don’t do that. We don’t do that in a civil society. It happened from the NIH, the CDC, the FDA, major medical groups, these chilling messages.

@1:01:45: But at the same time you had AAPS saying, “No, this is wrong. Treat patients.” You had FLCC, a group that became very strong, saying, “No. Treat patients.” In the UK, we had the BIRD group, that said, “You know what? Treat patients. Use ivermectin based protocols.” We had PANDA developed in South Africa. We had the Covid Medical Network developed in Australia. We had Treatment Domiciliary developed in Italy.

So listen, the counter argument to this, of “no, we should treat the virus”, that counter weight was there. And it’s one of the reasons why you’re talking to me today. You’re not talking to some FDA official who basically wanted to throw cold or hot water at these, you’re talking to me today because you’re getting a sense of truth! You’re getting a sense of reality. That this virus is treatable.

Everything that’s we’ve done for this virus we’ve made it far worse. By not treating it, keeping patients in fear, isolation. We’ve done multiple things that have promoted hospitalization, and we’ve done multiple things that have actually promoted excess mortality. And it’s a shameful time in America and in the world.

Where was the policy instructing doctors to NOT treat their patients coming from? Who was giving these orders?

@1:03:00: Under the dark cloud of fear, the medical administrations deferred to the FDA, the NIH and the CDC. Our three governmental agencies. They deferred to them. In fact, they will state, “We’re following the policy.”

So let’s pick something less charged. Like wearing masks. How, you know, what sets the mask wearing policy? What the CDC says. Well they say this, let’s follow it. Same thing is true. If the agencies say, “Don’t use hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin.”in fact, that’s what they say – that quickly gets down to medical administration, and they’ll float out an email saying, “Don’t do it.”

In fact, in a country, we can pick on it, Australia, they had the TGA. That’s the equivalent of the FDA. They have a guidelines where they literally have dozens and dozens of negative statements. “Don’t do this.” / “Don’t do that.” / “Don’t do this.” / “Don’t do that.” Interestingly, none of these groups actually say what to do. So if you’re to take any major hospital and ask them, “What email, or what policy came down that told doctors what to do? You gave warnings on what not to do, but what did you tell them to do to take care of clinic patients with covid-19?” Most of them would say, “Nothing. We don’t have -“

In fact, I testified in the Texas Senate on this topic and within, on March 10th, and within 48 hours there was a draft legislation to at least give patients some information. Say, “Listen, if the hospitals and doctors aren’t going to do anything, we’re going to give you some information. Here’s some – when you get your positive test result, here is some information on what you can do. Here are the treatment protocols. Here are the EUA monoclonal antibodies.”

@1:04:42: And again, if the hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin is controversial, okay. But what about the monoclonal antibodies? We haven’t talked about these. These are high tech, they’re produced by big pharma, it’s big money, it was all NIH funded, they’re emergency use authorized by the USFDA… How come America has no window to that? How come there’s no updates on how we’re doing with that? How come there’s no 1-800 numbers? How sick patients can find out where these antibodies are?

So it is a global suppression of early treatment, whether they’re generic drugs or newly approved drugs. There is a global suppression on early treatment. Americans will know, they watch the TV every night, the initial dialogue was, “We’re scared. Wear a mask, go in lockdown, hand sanitizer…” Okay? Then there was some reports about terrible things going in the hospital, then the reports later on were, “Wait for a vaccine”.

There were never regular reports or updates from any local or national TV source that gave regular updates – “This is what you should do when you get covid-19 at home. Here are the drugs that work. Here are the protocols. Here are the hotlines so you can get an antibody infusion.” Which is approved by the FDA! “Here are the hotlines so you can get in research.” Research is important! There’s still no hotline for Americans to get in covid-19 research. At a state or a federal level. Stunning! There’s been no updates.

@1:06:11: When I’ve dealt with multiple congressional and senate offices I said, “Listen. Weekly updates to the American people, so that they know what to do so they’re not so in fear when they’re getting these results. Weekly updates! Through all public channels. Weekly updates on treatment. And then monthly updates to the guidelines.” We have none of that! We are over a year of this, and the Americans have been absolutely let down by the government agencies, by the media! The media – why wouldn’t it come in to any local broadcasters thought process to give their listeners an update on early treatment? It’s a stunning oblivion.

Given that most medications are advertised as having possibly dangerous side effects, why did regulators categorically dismiss early outpatient therapies for Covid-19, including FDA-approved Hydroxychloroquine, on the grounds of having possible dangerous side effects?

@1:07:06: For products to actually be officially advertised, they have to have somebody who’s going to pay for the ad, which is a drug company, and they have to be FDA-approved. And they actually have to have an FDA advertising label. And because of the monoclonal antibodies, as an example, don’t have an advertising label, they can’t be – Lilly and Regeneron – can’t go out and advertise for them. But because they’re EUA, from a public health messaging perspective, they should be equally featured as vaccines.

Now vaccines are emergency use authorized; all we hear about is vaccines, morning, noon and night. Why do we hear – why do we hear a massive messaging about vaccines? Americans ought to think about this. Why are vaccines featured, by, the CDC, the NIH, and FDA, morning, noon and night, by the media, morning, noon and night? By every medical center, morning, noon and night?

I can tell you as a doctor in a medical center, all our emails are about vaccination. Why are they featured in every single public health communication? Needles in all the arms? In fact, shockingly, in the Dallas area, in October, this is long before the vaccine trials were ever completed, if you were to call CVS or Walgreens, the answering machine would say, “We’re proud to offer the covid-19 vaccine when it comes available.”

@1:08:32: We have never advertised for a product before it comes available. In fact, it’s against U.S. laws regarding drugs and biological products. So things started to go off the rails very early on, and it seems like there was a playbook. The playbook was to suppress any hope of treatment; a complete oblivion to treatment, through all the entities we’ve mentioned and at the same time prepare the population for mass vaccination. These two are very tightly linked.

And now with mass vaccination, we have seen things we have never seen. Advertising the vaccine before it’s even available. Massive messaging for the vaccine, far out of proportion to treatment. You have two EUA products, one you never hear about, Americans would – are starved of these monoclonal antibodies – in fact, they’re grossly underused. They could’ve saved probably tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of lives. And they’re being squashed. The Lilly and Regeneron products have been squashed. But the Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J products are being massively promoted and advertised.

Americans ought to be… kind of… wondering, why is that happening? Why are we de-focusing on the sick patient and focusing on well people? All the messaging about contagion control and vaccines are about well people. Why can we not focus on the sick covid patient? That was my message to the Department and Health Human Services in Texas.

But it goes further than that. It goes further than that. The vaccine registrational trials strictly excluded pregnant women, women of child-bearing potential, covid recovered patients, patients who had prior covid antibodies. Strictly excluded them. By regulatory science, if all the registrational trials excluded a group of patients, we would never use that product in that group once it gets on the market. Never! Never! We never violate that. Why? Cause we don’t know if it’s going to work, and we don’t know if it’s going to be safe. We never do that. There’s another level.

@1:10:42: With pregnant women are a special group in research and medicinal products. It’s very important for Americans to know this. In pregnant women, for vaccination, we only vaccinate with safe, inactive products. Inactive flu, tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis. That’s it. We would never inject a biologically active substance in a pregnant woman’s body. That could be dangerous. Never! And with the vaccines, as soon as they came out, the CDC, FDA, media, everybody said, “Vaccinate them. Vaccinate them.”

Given our longstanding acceptance of vaccines for diphtheria, tetanus, polio and measles, how is the development and deployment of Covid vaccines a departure from previous vaccine development and safety review?

@1:11:30: Well, the USA – the USFDA regulatory guidance on vaccines, and their have been modern vaccines. You don’t have to pick the old ones. I mean, we have modern vaccines, shingles vaccines, hepatitis-B, meningococcal vaccines, demand a minimum of 2 years of safety data. 2 years. By regulatory – in fact, they said it kind of written in, codified into the regulatory rules for the manufacturers.

That was all thrown out. And said, “Two months. For covid, two months.” So two months of observational data. This idea, that we can vaccinate people that were not even tested, in the trials, that has never been done before. We have never just thrown a vaccine at somebody without having any data. None.

So the very first pregnant woman that was vaccinated here in the United States, it was done with no knowledge of safety, and no knowledge of efficacy. And the argument that we’ve heard, the argument that we’ve heard, is, “Well, covid-19 is a bad illness. 600,000 people have died. The vaccine could help them. We should give it a shot. Come on. We should just give it a shot.”

Well that 600,000 died, I’ve already told you 85% of that was preventable with early treatment, which was actively suppressed and squashed. And not only that, is if this vaccine can help them, the vaccine better be safe. It better be safe. And my comments on the vaccine are safety, safety, safety. Let’s see it. Let’s see it. And Americans ought to – just like the Americans should have been getting weekly updates on treatment innovations, Americans should have been getting weekly updates on vaccine safety. Very important. Weekly updates from our federal officials on safety. Super important.

@1:13:22: Those two things are probably the two largest acts of malfeasance in all of medical regulatory history. It’ll go down in history of malfeasance. Wrongdoing by those of authority. How come there was no updates on treatment and no promotion of early treatment to reduce hospitalization and death? And now when we release the vaccine, why are there no safety updates? Why are there no attempts for risk mitigation in terms of making the vaccine program safer? How do we have all these vaccines? How do we know that we can vaccinate pregnant women?

We know because of years and years and years of safety data. Before a vaccine is ever been injected into a pregnant woman, it’s probably been tested for decades before we try it in a pregnant woman. We would never out of the box take a brand new technology that’s never been tested before, ever – and we know that the vaccine technology produces the dangerous spike protein, it produces the Wuhan spike protein, the spicule on the ball of the virus itself, which damages blood vessels and causes blood clotting. And all of them do. We would never unleash that into a pregnant woman’s body.

@1:14:31: Americans have to understand, something is very wrong, what’s going on. What’s going on now in the world, these are examples, are clear cut examples, of wrongdoing that is at such a high level. The groupthink is in the wrong direction in such a consistence and overwhelming way, that people are being harmed in, in extraordinary fashion.

How did you go public with your findings about early outpatient therapies for preventing hospitalization and death? How was it received?

@1:15:05: Well when I published the first paper in the American Journal of Medicine and taught doctors how to treat covid-19, and that could’ve been somebody else – if Dr. Zelenko had the publication power, he could’ve done it. Or Dr. Proctor could have done it. Or Dr. Didier Raoult could have done it. Or Brian Fareed – er – Brian Tyson or George Fareed. It turned out that I was the person who had sufficient academic authority to do this. Okay. And I have authority. I take complete responsibility for doing this. I did it uniquely, the only person in the world to do this.

Others actually may have been trying. And those papers may have been suppressed by editors. They probably were. Because we found suppression of early treatment literature all over. It became impossible to publish papers, it was really hard. I may have just been the strongest and the most courageous doctor in the world to do that. But I did it, and the feedback I was getting was tremendous. It was like, “Of course. This makes sense. I’m so glad this, this got into the literature.” It came out in the electronic print in August, and then it came into hard print in January. When it hit January it landed in all the medical libraries in the world, that’s when things really heated up.

And, I do have to tell you, that I got letters to the editor that came into the American Journal of Medicine and Joe – Dr. Joe Alpert, out of Arizona is the editor, Joe has let every one of those letters come to me for a response. The tenor of the letters is quite interesting. And they’ve come from Duke University, they’ve come from McGill, from the Nash University in Australia, they’ve come from Brazil.

@1:16:44: The tenor of the letters is, “Dr. McCullough, you can’t do this. You can’t treat covid-19 patients.” … (long pause) And it’s the most interesting – my response is, “Doctor. Please have courage. Let’s, let’s do away with therapeutic nihilism. Let’s join together and treat covid-19 patients compassionately to reduce hospitalization and death. And we can do this, and I can do it, and we even have some more supportive data.” So every time they say, “Oh, this drug doesn’t work!” And I’ll say, “Well here’s 5 more studies that do.”

Hydroxychloroquine – and we’re up to hundreds of studies that shows that it works. Ivermectin – hundreds of studies. Steroids – dozens of studies. Anticoagulants – at least a dozen studies. We are so well supported in the concepts of treating covid-19 that every time one of these letters comes in, I have a little fun with it, because the position of strength is enormous. My thoughts, and my positions, and my statements over time are becoming progressively stronger, and progressively more powerful.

@1:17:50: And the detractors sense that. This – the feeling of fear, intellectual fear, from my adversaries, is palpable. I feel it everyday. And when that first paper came out in the American Journal of Medicine, my daughter said, “Daddy, why don’t you make a youtube video?” I said, “No, I don’t want to do social media. That’s for kids. I just, I don’t have time for this.”

She taught me how to do it, it was powerpoint. I literally just recorded my face down in the lower corner, I wore a tie, 4 slides, saying, “Listen. It’s Americans. It’s Italians. We looked at safety. We looked at efficacy. We looked at all the available data. We think this is the best way to put together the drugs.” We had 4 slides on this. It got up on youtube. It went absolutely viral. Went absolutely viral.

And… then I got a message. It said, “You violated terms of the community.” and it was struck down. Then I got a call from the U.S. Senate. So I told you, I knew something was going on. Because, you know, I’ve never been called by the White House before. I’ve never been called by the Senate before. People in Washington were following this. They were stakeholders, in Washington who, in a sense, knew that something was going wrong here. That this, this viral infection could be treated.

But they were kind of waiting for someone in the academic community to step forward and literally say, “It can be treated!” I was the first one to say, “We can treat this! We can do this!” It’s very important to be able to make this statement, “We can do it.” Based on what? Based on my judgement. Based on my judgement. Supported by the available science, but more importantly, based on my judgement.

And so, I ended up contracting covid-19 myself. In October. My wife came home with it. She got sick. Before I knew it, I got sick. It got into my lungs. I was in approved protocols. I quickly got into a protocol; it’s hard, but I was able to find a protocol. I was on hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, nutraceutical bundle, per the protocol; I later on needed steroids cause of lung involvement. But I wanted to show America that you could get covid-19 and have some medical problems, which I do, and be able to get through it without being hospitalized.

@1:19:56: So on treatment day 6, illness day 8, beautiful sunny day in Dallas, Texas, I went out, far away from anybody else, and I went jogging. And I was really short of breath. And I tell you, I’m a pretty strong runner. I was short of breath cause of the covid involvement in my lungs. But I ran all the way to a park. I made a video in the park, and then I made it all the way home. And I had fun with it. I, in fact I played that Eminem music that said, the recovery video. If any of you watch Eminem, and it said, “I’m not afraid.” and I just, you know, video of myself, I said, “I’m not afraid of covid-19.” I had that video. That video was struck down. And then ultimately had to get restored.

Now wait a minute. Youtube is playing a role here. In addition to all the other stakeholders in suppressing any early treatment. In fact, the early treatment doctors started to become scrubbed from twitter, from youtube, from social media, and then ultimately youtube came out with a very clear message. They said, “Listen. We are only going to have information that is in line with the CDC, NIH, and FDA. Which say, do nothing. And everything else is going to be considered misleading. And we’re making the judgement. It’s our call, on what’s misleading and what’s not.”

But if it’s – it’s pretty easy to be in line with the CDC, NIH and FDA because they say to do nothing! So if the social media platform is to just do nothing for early treatment and suppress early treatment, which it is, the major media is to suppress early treatment.

@1:21:32: So I still go back and say, “Who’s responsible?” I’d say the government agencies. In this period of crisis, if we’re going to revert to our government agencies, and our task force, and if our presidents can’t be wise enough to even choose doctors who have ever even seen a patient and know how to treat it, if they’re not wise enough to pick doctors who can treat covid-19, we’ll never have agencies that say we can treat covid-19, and if we don’t have agencies to do that, then nothing else is going to follow.

If the doctors and people we pick, have never seen covid-19, they’re scared of it, they don’t know how to treat it, and the only thing they can comment on is wearing masks and social distancing and vaccination – that’s all that America’s going to have. So America’s response to covid-19, the official response, has basically been to well people. “Wear a mask.” “Get vaccinated.” And America has offered nothing to the sick person. And when they get in the hospital, we haven’t seen much feature on that. The drugs are pretty weak. Remdesivir, convalescent plasma, tocilizumab, steroids, anticoagulants, you don’t hear much about it. And it’s, it’s honestly too late.

Recently a Harvard group, the stop covid group, had published those sick enough to get in the ICU, the 28 day mortality is 38%. Unacceptably high. Going into hospital’s a nightmare. I get desperate calls all over the United States. Thank goodness for the major telemedicine and regional telemedicine networks. They’ve basically have taken over. They’re the real heroes of the covid-19 pandemic. Hospitals are empty now. Hospitals here in Dallas used to have 200, 300 patients at a time. Now they’ve got… 10? 5? The other day in Texas we hit 0 deaths. Zero?

So, early treatment is going to be one of the great, great stories that historians… and they’ll reach out to Ben Marble who started myfreedoctor.com. Ben Marble, that, that whole telemedicine is run strictly by charity. People donate money, and they get patients their drugs. And they prescribe hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, steroids and other drugs. Put them into combination, they follow protocols. Terrific. They’re seeing thousands of patients by telemedicine everyday.

@1:23:44: So Americans are getting treated. And so word is out! People talk to each other. Americans, it’s interesting. They understand that the media and the agencies are not leveling with them. They understand that.

I did a seminar early on because I had treated a very prominent African-American minister here in Dallas. And him and his wife were sick. He didn’t tell me about his wife. And she was testing negative. She wasn’t a patient of mine. He got what’s called sequence multi-drug therapy, he got really sick, he’s got heart failure, diabetes, emphysema, obesity, kidney disease – survives at home, sick for about 10 days – I’m not saying the drug therapy is perfect, but I saved him from being hospitalized or dying.

His wife, no treatment, hospitalized, diagnosed late, was in the hospital for 5 weeks. Came home on oxygen; that virus ravaged her lung. It was awful. They had the same illness. And so he became activated; he said, “Dr. McCullough, can you do a webinar for African-American churches nationwide?” I did a webinar, and I presented my approach. And you know what the comments were? They said, “Dr. McCullough, we knew, we knew the government was lying to us. We knew this was treatable. We knew it all along.” People know this.

Are more doctors finally learning to overcome the regulatory and institutional suppression of outpatient Covid-19 therapies?

@1:25:06: It’s the individual finding its way. There are practices that have come on. I’ve gotten calls in Dallas, “Dr. McCullough, can you share your protocols? We want to do this.” The treating doctors really have interdigitated. And we informally called, formed a group called C19, where we get about 4-5 email updates a day, of really critical updates on treatment. It is international. We have former heads of state involved in C19, we have Nobel Prize winners involved in C19, hundreds and hundreds of American doctors.

There now is a published list of treating doctors in the United States; 250 across all 50 states. Texas has 35 of them. So Americans are finding their way despite suppression of early treatment. It’s one of the great stories.

@1:25:56: And I’ll never forget when I testified in the Texas senate, on March 10th, myself and Dr. Richard Urso, another leading early treating doctor in Houston, the chairwoman of the committee at one of the side conversations said, “Yeah, my husband got covid-19, and he got really sick. And I’m so glad he got early treatment. We found a doctor that was willing to prescribe ivermectin and other drugs.”

And I didn’t throw out the zinger in front of the Texas media, but I felt like saying, “You know, do you have to be a chairperson of the Department of Health and Human Services to get some treatment? What about these poor people in south Dallas, San Antonio and Houston, what about people who are not so privileged?”

Do you know that 85% of some of our patients hospitalized here are black or Hispanic? Who’s helping them out? We should be having early treatment centers; they’ve been denied treatment. It’s heartbreaking. Hispanics and African-Americans have double the – have double the mortality that of caucasians.

As a doctor confronted with sick people who need treatment NOW, how do you evaluate what therapies are effective in order to help your patients NOW instead of waiting for the publication of largescale studies?

@1:27:07: We have actually a law in America. It’s called the 21st Century Cures Act. And what this says, is that the FDA and doctors and others trying to do decide on treatment, evaluate the totality of information, including that little anecdote about your mom and the caretaker, as well as case series, large prospective cohort studies, retrospective cohort studies, hospital studies, outpatient studies, and then large prospective randomized double-blind placebo controlled trials.

But in a virus, single drugs themselves are very difficult to prove. Like, if we require that for HIV we’d have no treatment. HIV we quickly realized we need 3 or 4 or 5 drugs. Everyone understands this. With covid-19, I never thought a single drug was going to work. Hydroxychloroquine. No, not alone. But in combination.

And it was that thinking, it takes kind of superior thinking, that somehow doctors just lost their ability to think. Think a cancer doctor would say, “Oh, there’s one pill that cures cancer.” Never. It’s always combination cancer therapy. So, with this, with hydroxychloroquine, we’re now at the stage obviously, we have hundreds and hundreds trials. We even have large randomized trials. I’ve published a doctorate with Joe Ladapo, only prospective randomized control trials show benefit.

So at every level we meet the evidence grade to use hydroxychloroquine. At every level, we meet the evidence grade to use ivermectin. Not so much evidence, but good enough, and the monoclonal antibodies. We have the same for steroids.

@1:28:38: The biggest and best trial in all of covid-19 is ColCorona. I mentioned it with colchicine. Shockingly, ColCorona, the best trial, 4,000 patients, double-blind randomized placebo control trial. The best quality that exists, rejected by New England Journal of Medicine, rejected by JAMA, rejected by Lancet.

There is a global suppression on any early treatment. I want the listeners to understand how global this is. If we were to go north into Canada, doctors are threatened that their licenses will be examined or taken away if they attempt to treat an outpatient with covid-19. They are told this, in Canada. In northern EU, the same is true. Dr. Didier Raoult, who is trying to innovate with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in France, in periods of time has been under degrees of threat of arrest or partial arrest or house arrest.

Okay? Almost as if we’re back in the Dark Ages. In Australia, in April, they put on the books in Queensland, Australia, a doctor who tries to help a patient with hydroxychloroquine could be penalized up and to the point of going into jail for 6 months for helping. In South Africa they put some doctors in jail for trying to help patients with ivermectin!

Listen! The powers that are out there that want to suppress early treatment, and cause as much fear, suffering, and hospitalization and death, are not by happenstance. These are powerful forces that have created such fear among doctors; people are fearful they’re going to lose their careers, their livelihood, their medical license, people are afraid of going to jail. In just helping their fellow man get through covid-19.

This is extraordinary. Historians should go look through the course of time. You know the very first doctor, who tried to help a polio patient, survived polio? With the iron lung machine? Which became really a staple ICU device? Was thrown off medical staff. Throw him off staff!

Can you offer any investigative leads to researchers trying to discover WHY early outpatient therapies for Covid-19 have been suppressed?

@1:30:57: I’d look very carefully at the work, building upon other investigative reporters. So Dr. Peter Breggin has a book called “Covid-19 and The Global Predators: We are the Prey”. And it has a living document, he’s already pre-released the manuscript, and he’s releasing updates. Now he’s older and he’s kind of worried the story won’t get out, at his age. But I believe he’s up to 900 documents. The whole story is not put together. But it is substantial and shows the interconnections of the stakeholders involved.

Dr. Nicholas Wade, who is featured on a recent Tucker Carlson is an investigative reporter, he has assembled quite a story. And then Whitney Webb, who is a young investigative reporter, has published some striking things.

All three of these, and as well as many more are linking to important concepts. The suppression of early treatment, and even probably the soft attenuation of in-hospital treatment, to make the problem worse than what it is. Many methods to make the case count look higher than what it is, make the mortality numbers look worse than what they are, many methods to create the reaction out of proportion to the realities. So lockdowns, fears, economic suffering, what have you. All of these things making the pandemic way worse than what it is.

Okay? To, to have that occur. More fear, suffering, hospitalization and death, loneliness, lockdown… in order to promote mass vaccination. These two are tightly linked. “Now mass vaccination AT ALL COSTS! The world must be mass vaccinated.”

@1:33:00: And human beings on Earth ought to understand, at this point in time, what we’re seeing is unprecedented.

It became known, the virus was going to be amenable to a vaccine, somewhere around April or May. At that point in time, therapy was suppressed, everything – nothing can be published. Everything, the fake Lancet paper, squashed treatment, and then prepared the population for vaccination. Once the vaccines come out, they’re short-tracked, there’s all kinds of enthusiasm regarding it, you know, needles in all the arms, trucks rolling, Americans cheering. And then the mass vaccination program starts off.

And then before we know it, you know, we’re vaccinating pregnant women. Why are we doing that? That can’t be safe. Now we’re going to vaccinate covid recovered patients. Wait a minute! They have complete and robust permanent immunity. No one’s ever challenged the immunity of a covid recovered patient. Why are we vaccinating them? And then it keeps going and going.

At first we vaccinated high-risk people. I didn’t really understand vaccinating young health care workers, because they weren’t at risk. There were never any hospital outbreaks in the United States. The only thing that was clear, nursing home workers gave it to nursing home patients. We knew that. So nursing home workers should have been vaccinated. And then maybe high-risk people and we should call it a day.

@1:34:16: I always estimated maybe 20 million people need to be vaccinated. But that didn’t seem to satisfy the vaccine stakeholders. Which are: Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, AstraZeneca, and any others that come forward, the CDC, the FDA and the NIH. And the White House. Massive vaccine stakeholders. You can throw in Gates Foundation. World Health Organization. You can throw those in as well. Massive stakeholders. And they wanted every body to be vaccinated. Without exception! No one will escape the needle.

We’ve actually never had this before. And the vaccine process is extraordinary. There’s a consent form. It says this is investigational. “We don’t know if it’s going to work. There’s only 2 months of data. The side effects could be a sore arm all the way to death. And we don’t know. Sign here. We need your identifying information. We need a barcode on the vial. We need you identified. And now you’re in the database. You’re vaccinated.”

And so this mass vaccination is extraordinarily concerning. We never vaccinate into the middle of a pandemic. Never. We’ve never had an effective vaccine for respiratory virus, including influenza – it’s only modestly effective. We knew from the published data that the attack rates in placebo and the vaccine arms were less than 1%. So we know that the vaccine can have a less than 1% effect in the population.

Why would it be any different than the clinical trials? We knew from the clinical trials that it didn’t stop covid-19, so people can get covid-19 anyway. What would be this incredible drive to vaccinate everybody?

And now, oh my Lord, now the vaccine within a few months has been completely weaponized. Now there’s travel is related to the vaccine. People can’t go to school without the vaccine. People are losing their jobs without the vaccine.

@1:36:02: Believe me, there is something very, very potent in this vaccine. It should be disturbing to everybody. The word “vaccine” ought to be the most disturbing word that they have seen.

Now we have 12 year old children who are told they can decide on their own, whether or not they can take a vaccine.

So, you know, about 70% of my patients are vaccinated. I’m very pro-vaccine, I’ve taken all the vaccines myself – about 70%, and they’re all vaccinated in December, January and February. But as we sit here today, in May, we have over 4,000 vaccine related deaths, and over 10,000 hospitalizations.

The limit! To shut down a program! Is about 25-50 deaths. Swine flu, 1976, 25 deaths, they shut down the programs. It’s not safe. The whole – all the vaccines in the United States per year, would [dialogue unclear] gets reported in the database, is about 200. And we’re talking about vaccinating probably, probably, you know, 500 million injections.

@1:37:03: Here, in the United States, at a 100 million people vaccinated, this is far and away the most lethal, toxic, biologic agent ever injected into a human body in American history. And it’s going strong. With no mention of safety by our officials. With wild enthusiasm by our hospitals and hospital administrators. With doctors supporting it. Doctors are saying now, they won’t see patients in their waiting room without the vaccine.

This problem, covid-19, was actually from the very beginning, that’s what Whitney Webb said, she goes “Covid-19 is actually about the vaccine. It’s not about the virus. It’s about the vaccine.”

Why has there been such a relentless focus on mass vaccination as the ONLY way back to normalcy?

@1:37:50: I think it’s about what the vaccine means. And Whitney Webb gets credit for this, back in April she said, “Ah ha! I figured this out. This is what globalists have been waiting for. They’ve been waiting for a way of marking people.” That you get a vaccine, you’re marked in the database. And this can be used for trade, for commerce, for behavior modification, all different purposes.

And you see it right here in Dallas. They have announced, you know, you can’t go to a Dallas Maverick’s game unless you’re vaccinated. You’ve had people say, listen, you have passports. You had colleges today announce that they’re not going to give any credit to natural immunity.

Every scientist in the world knows that the natural immunity is way better than the vaccine immunity.

If it’s about covid, why don’t we have covid recovered go to the Maverick’s game? Why don’t we have covid recovered people freely go to college? Why do we have to have faulty vaccine immunity be the priority? And have natural immunity not count?

See, these types of things make me think that Whitney Webb is correct. This is actually about marking. The vaccine is a way of marking people; it’s a way of starting to assert efforts to create compliance, behavior control – don’t forget the vaccine is just the starter. Now there’s going to be updates, there’s going to be boosters, they’re already prepping people for this. There’s going to be more – the vaccine manufacturers are all linked. They’re all uniquely indemnified.

What medical product is there indemnification, where if something happens to you, you don’t have any recourse? You know, woman gets vaccinated, pregnant woman, she has no maternal fetal rights. Something happens to her or her baby, she’s out of luck. This is extraordinary what Americans are doing. It’s absolutely extraordinary what’s being thrust upon us now.

Are we entering a Brave New World in which a person who elects NOT to get vaccinated will be punished through nonjudicial means by being forbidden to work, travel, and attend important public events?

@1:39:45: I think this whole pandemic, from the beginning, was about the vaccine. So I think all roads lead to the vaccine. And what it means.

There are already places in southeast Asia and Europe, they are laying the groundwork for compulsory vaccination. I mean, compulsory. That means somebody pins you down to the ground and puts a needle in you. That’s how bad stakeholders want vaccination.

Listen. It’s not of cost. You don’t have to pay for it. It’s all provided. There are people, or stakeholders, they do want a needle in every arm. This “needle in every arm” is a very important moniker. Why? Why do you want a needle in arm?

Let’s take covid recovered. Can’t get the virus. Can’t receive it. It has nothing – Why would they ever want a needle in the arm of a covid recovered patient? Why? Three studies show higher safety events.

See, the tension that Americans are feeling right now, as they’re trying to keep their jobs and go to work, is they know they can die of the vaccine! That’s the problem. If the vaccine was like water, and you just got it and no side effects, who wouldn’t take it? Say, hey, I’ll comply. They got my social security number anyway in a database. I’m already marked. I’ll just get marked.

@1:40:56: But no, there’s something very unique about this vaccine. It’s something about injecting something into a body, that is so important to stakeholders, that it doesn’t matter.

Kids 12 years old told they can make their own decision on this?! And it could be their fatal decision? Think about that! North Carolina just passed that. Oh, kids 12 years old can make, can decide on their own.

There are 4, over 4,000 dead Americans, there’s over 10,000 dead people in Europe, that die on days 1, 2 and 3 after the vaccine. Why, are we pushing this in a way where people’s jobs and their education, and their livelihood decide on a decision that’s potentially fatal? The tension – you can cut it with a knife!

There are parents who say, “Listen. I want my kid to go to college this year but I don’t want to lose him to the vaccine.” They know what’s going on. The internet is full of these cases. Blood clots, strokes, immediate death.

Now I’m fortunate. I have not directly lost a patient to the vaccine. I told you. Most got vaccinated in January – December, January and February. Based on the safety data now, I can no longer recommend it. I can’t recommend it. It’s past all the thresholds to being a safe product. It’s not a safe product. None of them are. It’s not just Johnson & Johnson. In fact, more of the safety events in the United States have occurred with Moderna and Pfizer.

There are now papers, written by prominent scientists, calling for a worldwide halt in the program. There are prominent virologists, many of them, including Nobel Prize Winners, who have said, listen. If we vaccinate people and we create a very narrow, incomplete library of immunity – which what the vaccine is. The vaccines are all targeted to the original Wuhan spike protein. Which is long gone. That’s extinct. Patients are getting vaccinated to something that doesn’t even exist anymore. That Wuhan spike protein is gone.

We’re hoping the immunity covers the other variants. But that narrow immunity is a setup. It’s just like giving everybody a narrow spectrum antibiotic. If you did that, what would happen? We’d grow up superbugs.

There are warnings out there saying, “Don’t do this! Don’t vaccinate the entire world. All we’re going to do is set ourselves up for a superbug that’s going to really wipe out populations.”

So for many reasons, the vaccine, indiscriminate vaccination, is a horrendous idea, it’s a horrendous bioweapon that’s been thrust onto the public. And it’s going to cause great personal harm, which it already has. Thousands of people have lost their lives. I’ve never lost a direct patient, but I’ve had my patients lose their family members – lots of them!

I’ve filled out a safety report on a patient who developed blood clots after one of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, and I’m telling you, it took half an hour to do it, there was many pages, and each page said: “Warning. Federal offense. Punishable by severe fines and penalties if I falsified a report.” All those thousands of Americans that have died with the vaccine and hospitalizations in the database, I think are real. And they are far beyond anything we’ve ever seen. And as a doctor, and as a public citizen, I am extraordinarily concerned about the vaccine.

The vaccine center right down the street here is empty. I drive past it everyday. Americans know, they’re talking to each other, the vaccine’s not safe. And now the effort is, the vaccine stakeholders want kids without parental guidance, and now they want to be in the church. Americans, and people worldwide, should be extraordinarily alarmed.

Has any agency or individual tried to silence you through threats or other forms of intimidation?

@1:44:24: My personal situation, professional situation, is a position of strength. And those who have attempted in any way to pressure, coerce, or threaten me with reprisal have paid an extraordinary price.

And I think that’s an important message, to get out there. There is a position of strength, of based on principles of compassionate care, and of the Hippocratic Oath, and of the fiduciary relationship that a doctor has to a patient, and a prominent doctor has to a population, that supercedes all of those other ill intents. And what I say is, “Bring ’em on.”

Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH, FACP, FACC, FAHA, FCRSA, FCCP, FNFK, FNLA
Professor of Medicine, Texas A & M College of Medicine
Board Certified Internist and Cardiologist
President of Cardiorenal Society of America
Editor-in-Chief, Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine
Editor-in-Chief, Cardiorenal Medicine
Senior Associate Editor, American Journal of Cardiology

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David Goldberg’s FINAL WORDS: Project Pogo and Project Zyphr | Full Transcript

Extermination effort and implementation of a world government.

DISCLAIMER: I cannot attest to the veracity of these claims. I came across this video many months ago (mid 2020’s – although the alleged creation of the video was early June 2019), and the strange timing of everything mentioned in this video in relation to everything that we see happening around us currently is too hard to ignore.

Here is a full transcript of this video for consideration. Whether it is a huge psyop, fear-monger attempt, or whether it is a legitimate warning of things to come (already happening?), I leave for each person to contemplate.

Regardless of the specific motive, the information in this video is extremely uncanny and worthy of review.

Full transcript below (some embellishment added for emphasis):

“This audio file was recovered from David’s safe after his death. It contains information yielded from the classified documents he was given.

We believe he was murdered due to this information.

Please review his previous videos for more context.

The audio file was recorded in early June of 2019, a few days before David’s death.”

David Goldberg’s

FINAL WORDS

Classified documents and white house memo reveal “EXTERMINATION” plans for millions of Americans through Project Pogo and Project Zyphr

“Hello everyone. This is David Goldberg again, this is probably going to be one of my most important videos that I’ve done yet.

We’re going to discuss a couple of things. New things that have come up. I have received a classified document from the White House insider. And we also have some memos that I’ve referenced in the past. And I’m going to walk through everything that I’ve been deciphering and learning from these videos. Excuse me, from the documents that I received.

So, we’ll get into this. The crux of this. I want to just introduce you right, right away – what is it all about? This is it. This is what the documents reveal. There are too many people waking up, there are too many Americans, more and more of them that are suspicious of Israel. More and more Americans aware of Zionism. This has been around for decades and decades. You go back to the 50’s, 60’s… there’s uh, a lot of literature about Zionism, about Judaism.

It’s not unusual, but, the difference is today more and more people are waking up to it. It’s been a real tipping point. Where you have, you always had maybe about half a percent of the population that was aware of Zionism, that did not like Jews, and what not, but they were never a part of the mainstream. They were always dismissed as conspiracy theorists. They had no influence. So they were not really a threat.

But that has changed. And you know that has changed. Anyone paying attention knows that it’s changed.

We have seen, a big change in comment sections on youtube, many people make references to Zionism. It has become a part of the nomenclature. Through the influence of 8-chan, 4-chan, many many websites, and ultimately many many youtube channels that have been speaking the truth very aggressively for many years, but this has really gotten attention lately. It is somewhat of a(n) accumulative effect, a snowball effect where more and more people start to wake up to the truth and the facts, and it just expands. And people become more accepting of it. And they start to say, ‘Okay, it’s okay for me to look at the information. And I’m not an anti-semite for looking at it.” And it really starts to cook for people. So this has been a big change in the recent past few years.

What happened is that Israel, its agents, its propagandists, have been playing their very very close attention to this over the past few years. They know this is happening. They are very concerned about it. We are talking about 0.5% of Americans who has some idea of Zionism and they’re against it, and they understand it. That number, according to these documents, is now about – I saw two numbers. They said 15%. And another one said 7%. But that is a very large number of Americans that have woken up to what’s going on with Israel and Zionism, and the Israeli lobby and influence. They’re all afraid to hate Israel. That number is very high. And it has them very concerned. This is much of what the classified documents talk about; we’ll get into that more.

I wanted to set it up for you so you actually understand what this is really about, what I was given from the White House insider. The main part that you really need to know though, is they have a plan for all of this. So I’m going to talk about that now.

There’s a discussion within these documents, years ago, to ban the youtube channels, to shut it down, all of that, but they changed course. They made a decision to do something completely different. And they decided instead of censoring everything, to fund and promote gatekeeper channels. Shill channels. To simply gather and collect all the open minded people who are looking at the issue. And they did shutdown some of the legitimate channels. And that has actually happened. If you’re following some of that, you are aware that there have been channels that have been shutdown. Almost completely eliminated.

Some of those channels were not a part of the original gatekeeper channels, they have no connection; they are truth telling channels. Some of those they’ve eliminated. That they felt were a threat, or that might be calling out the gatekeeper channels.

So! I’m just looking through some of the documents and seeing what I want to talk about next.

One really interesting aspect of all this is that the gatekeeper channels and the shill channels, typically these will be disinfo channels. Disinfo channels like Alex Jones, for example, has been a long time, disinfo, Zionist channel. Very very active in deflecting people away from Zionism. Alex Jones talks about everything, but he never talks about Israel. So that is an active disinfo channel that has been around forever.

What they’ve created with these new gatekeeper channels is very truthful channels. They’re very honest, they don’t put out a lot of disinfo. They are actually legitimate. And that is done to give them credibility among these people who are awake, who are waking up.

There was very specifically done, the documents, to talk about that.

Now I’m going to talk about, what is the purpose of the whole operation? And the purpose of this is to put out truthful channels to attract people to them. They call it “tag, track and ID”. It is a term used throughout the documents: TTID. It’s something you’ll want to remember – this is very common throughout these documents. They refer to it all the time.

So what does that tell you? They want to tag, they want to track you, and they want to identify who you are. If you are watching these channels, if you are informed, if you are awake on these issues, they want to tag you, they want to track you and they want to know exactly who you are. They want to know, and it talks about tracking people’s ID addresses through youtube. They have access to youtube, they do know who you are.

So this is discussed a lot in the documents; I’m just looking through it right now.

And there are two projects, and it’s very important to listen to this. Project Pogo is one of them. And Project Zyphr. I will spell that one. ZYPHR. Project Pogo and Project Zyphr are the two projects that the classified documents are referring to, and each has a different role.

Project Pogo is about the youtube gatekeepers. How they are all agents, they’re all paid to put out truthful information – so that they can tag, track and ID the people that are watching the videos, and giving them likes, and giving them comments. They’re tracking all of it.

Project Zyphr is a different project, and that’s what I’ll talk about in a bit. That is the second stage here – that is coming up. And that is the extermination. They’re going to exterminate these people. Whether it is, tag them for anti-semitic speech, charge them with crimes – eliminate them completely.

And this is where I’ll talk about in the documents – where they talk about guillotines. Viral attacks. Targeted. How they’re going to eliminate these people without too much suspicion, without too many people noticing.

But here’s the problem. As I read the documents, I have documents from 4 years ago, I have documents from 2 years ago, and then I have documents from 3 months ago. So there’s a progression in the timeline as the projects change. And Project Zyphr has changed.

In the beginning they have been talking, they were talking a lot about, okay, we are going to infect these people with a virus that imitates the flu virus, they’re going to eliminate them in various ways that would not be suspicious.

In the documents that I have now from 3 months ago, they are saying the amount of people they have to eliminate is too large. It is too many. We are talking about millions, of Americans. And this is where we see their plans are changing. And they are going to initiate something that is devastating and that is extremely frightening. And, based on what I can see in the documents, we’re talking about power outages, along with a purge. They’re going to come in, they’re going to take you out of your home, and they’re going to put you into a military vehicle or whatever, a van, and drive you away, and place you into a camp.

It is a very very big operation that they are planning. It is millions of Americans. They will do it under the cover of night, under the cover of blackness, during one of these planned blackouts. The blackouts are, based on documents, I’m just looking at it right now, they have a 3-day blackout, they have a nation-wide blackout that lasts 2 days, and a lot of localized blackouts. So it is a whole series of blackouts that they’re going to do, and of course it will be blamed on all kinds of things – they might blame it on Iran, I have seen that mentioned in the documents. They’ve already prepped people for this. There are going to be more blackouts that are already predictive programming. So we may see more of this as we go on.

As far as I can tell from Project Zyphr, they are planning this next year and the year after.

[NOTE: Video allegedly came out in 2019 – so David Goldberg is referencing that Project Zyphr will start rolling out in 2020-2021]

They are not done tagging, tracking and identifying everyone. It looks like they’re at about 78%. I looked in the documents and there were a couple of indications of how long, far along they feel in the project is. They’re like 78% done, but they’re not completely done. It does take time to identify a youtube account. And then track it to the email that it was created with, and then IP address, and then find out who created it. It does take them a lot of time to do that. It is not instant. It does take a lot of research. Because a lot of people create a youtube account with an email address – doesn’t give any indication of who they are. An account name that doesn’t have their full name on it, they don’t use their real pictures. So it is a challenge for them, and that’s why the project has been going on for so long. But it is coming to a close. In the next 6 months to a year, it appears it is coming to a close, and that is when Project Zyphr will be initiated.

So I have some notes here, I’m going to continue on, talk a little bit more about… Right. They’re being tracked, they’re being identified, that’s the whole point. A lot of people have said, well why are some of these youtube channels allowed to exist, why are they allowed to so openly talk about the truth…

And some of you might know Adam Green, Know More News, and there are a whole bunch of others, and they’re very very open about Zionism and they’re very honest about it, and they’re telling the truth! I mean, they are telling the truth. They’re not hiding anything, they’re not disinfo, they’re not putting disinfo out there.

But as far as I know, they are a part of – I mean, they’re all a part of this operation. I can’t say specifically about if Adam Green’s a part of it or not, but I would assume, possibly he is. He has probably been guaranteed a lot of money. He’s probably been promised a lot of things, he’s probably – he could be a freemason, he could be a part of their operation, he could be an agent. I don’t know, I have no idea, it is total speculation on my part. I have no idea. All I know is, this is part of the operation. What they want to do. His channel would fit into the ammo, it is an example I’m giving. He is there to tag, track and ID. Not him specifically, but the people behind the operation who are doing all the research, and all the people who are commenting and viewing and liking… They want to know who they are, they want to know where they live, and they are going to eliminate them. At a date in the future. Completely eliminate them.

This is going way beyond the idea of passing laws to ban speech, which they’re already doing. They’ve done it in America already, but not very aggressively. We’ll see more legislation of that nature. But they want to completely eliminate these people, because they do stand in the way of the agenda. There are too many people that are waking up. It is way too many for them to handle. They’re starting to have an influence, and they’re starting to change the conversation online.

It is of grave concern to Israel.

Something that the memos that I received, I will talk a little bit about the memos – the memos are different from this classified documents. The memos are White House internal memos that discuss a wide range of things in terms of Trump’s meeting with Rabbis, discussions with Netanhayu over the phone. And one of the memos says that Donald Trump will have to declare himself “King of Israel”. Publicly. This is part of the process for them. There’s no strategic reason for it – it is symbolic for them. Trump is going to declare himself King of Israel. At some point. I don’t know how, but they’re talking about it in these memos over and over again. When he’s going to do it, why they want him to do it, which again is symbolic, it has no strategic purpose, apparently. It is part of the process of what – of the endgame. Basically, is what I’m saying.

So we’ll see if that happens or not. It sounds ridiculous so I can’t imagine him actually saying it, but maybe he will do something like that. We’ll look out for that in the coming months.

Based on my reading of the classified documents and the memos, so much of what is going on is planned. They’ve given people impression that Trump has brought chaos to politics, but it’s actually opposite; it has been planned. Donald Trump’s allegiance is to Israel. He’s not only a Jew, he is a freemason. They have promised him – his daughter and the sons, will enjoy very high level ranking within the world government, that they are forming. The capital which will be Jerusalem. So that is why Trump is so dedicated to following the script. Performing the way that he does. It appears to be very authentic to his followers.

Everything is done, talking about the wall, to the fake news, was scripted from the beginning, around 2014 and 2015. And according to some of the memos I’m reading, he loved it. They introduced all of this to him and he loved it. They told him the plan, ‘you’re going to become president, you’re going to say this, and this, and this’ – he loved it.

He’s already a little bit of a racist, he’s already predisposed to some of the rhetoric, so he loved it, he jumped on board, and they promised him great things, especially for his family if he would have followed through all these things. And simply follow the script, and he does have leeway. He has leeway to say many things that he wants to say, he has a lot of fun doing this. But he does have his script writers and the… there’s one of the script writers, I forget his name, he’s bald guy… I want to remember his name, it’s important to say it. Well, he’s a big part of this. He writes a lot of the Trump’s tweets, he crafts a lot of it.

I can’t remember it… I’m going to look it up right now. Trump’s speech writer… Steven Miller. Steven Miller has a big role in all of this. He’s a dedicated zionist. He has a lot to do with a lot of this. If you want to go down the rabbit hole, if you want to find out who’s really behind it, Steven Miller is a big part of it.

So that is the whole of it. I want to get this video out, I want people to hear it, I want people to know what’s going on. I’ve had some strange things going on in my house. I’ve noticed black SUVs. I mentioned it before; they’re still there. I still see them every once in a while. The other day I went out to try and approach one, to confront them, like what are you doing here? I know you’re here. And they drove off. It’s like, right when I opened the door, and I look outside, I see them drive off.

So… I don’t know. Maybe it’s just coincidence, that they were leaving and they saw – I don’t know. But it seemed like they were very very prepared to get out of there. So the next time I see them I’m going to confront them quickly. And make sure that they don’t have time to get out of there before I have a chance to get down there and at least they see me coming for them. I will try again. But I have seen them mostly at night. I open the window and I look out the window and that is when I see them mostly. And so I want to confront them. I’m tired of the harassment, I know they’re watching me. I assume I’m bugged – I assume there’s somebody hearing what I’m saying, but I don’t care anymore.

I have been given the documents, so I have been tasked with this duty, to get the information out. I’m going to do it. In anyway that I can. I have given my friends copies of all of these. I have stored them in different places. I have a deadman’s switch in case something were to happen to me. So I’ve done my best to prepare, because I feel like this is getting very serious.

And the documents they showed me are terrifying. The plan that they have in place. I would expect they have this plan of gatekeeping and tracking people. But they’re going to take it to a new level, with Project Zyphr. They’re going to take it to a new level. They’re going to exterminate these people. One by one. Through the blackouts. I mean, it says in the classified documents their plan to pick them up. They’re just going to physically pick them up. They’re also going to use all kinds of other means to eliminate them.

Not just – the high value targets are going to be picked up. The lower value targets will be given viruses. Targeted viruses. That activate either right away, or over time. They don’t want it to be too obvious. So all of a sudden a whole bunch of Americans get sick… Of course there will be official stories in the news media – ‘okay, there’s a flu outbreak’; which indicates to me this will probably happen in winter. Not this winter but possibly the winter of 2020/2021.

From what I’m reading from the documents that is the timeline. It is not specific, but that is where I feel it’s going to be. Because they want to do a flu outbreak, and it will make sense in winter and people won’t question it. They have to eliminate a lot of people, and a lot of people, high value – high value of targets. It’s going to be so many people that disappear, that people will ask questions. So they have their cover stories, and they’re getting them ready and they got them in place.

If this were a few hundred thousand people, they could do it. But, it is millions and millions of Americans that they want to eliminate. I think it’s 15 million. Based on what I’m reading in these documents and some of the numbers that they use, which has not been totally specific about it, it looks like 15 million. But it could even be more. They want to eliminate them. Completely. Completely!

Because, it’s becoming a problem. And it has been a problem for a few years, and this is their solution to it. In addition to that, they want the world government, they want all of these plans to move forward. They cannot have opposition. Because the things that are going to happen are going to be very very radical. You’re going to see the disillusion of the United States of America, you’re going to see world leaders and the media endorsing something that is so crazy. And that is, the disillusion of the United States of America and the endorsement of a world government seated in Israel.

A lot of Americans aren’t going to accept that but they have to eliminate people who are going to call out what’s really going on. From my reading of the documents, how they’re going to roll all of this out and justify the disillusion of the United States and many other countries as well. It appears their plan is to do all countries at once. It’s going to be under the cover of financial collapse. Well, we have to do the world government, we’re all going to die because of the financial system is broken down. That is something that is talked about in the classified documents.

That ultimately will be the cover story after they do the purge and eliminate the dissidents, the people who have woken up to Zionism, there will be a total financial meltdown and they will say, ‘look, we have to do the world government, we have to come together, we have to create this new currency, we have no choice’.

The chaos is too serious. It will be probably 6 months of complete financial chaos… food shortages, rise in crime – many many people will die. Millions and millions of people will also die from this. And then they will justify it and say, ‘look, we have to do the world government’.

So… that is what’s going on. I’m about done, I’m going to do another video. I have more things coming up. I have a lot more planned, because there’s more in the documents that I need to discuss. I’ll be back with another video soon. Thank you for listening, and I’ll do more soon.”

David E. Goldberg (1959-2019)

Sadly, Mr. Goldberg did not make another video, because shortly after the above video came out, Mr. Goldberg was purportedly found dead in his home on June 8, 2019. The timing of his death is undoubtedly surrounded with controversy and suspicion, especially in light of his claims of these insider White House documents/memos and being watched.

Unironically, David Goldberg’s own youtube channel has been taken down. Perhaps a victim of the very projects he was exposing?

For more information on David E. Goldberg’s death, please visit: Murdered for speaking out: Last words of David Goldberg warning of mass murder of Americans

An image that has been widely used to identify David E. Goldberg is this one:

David Elias Goldberg

Who is not to be confused with another David Goldberg (David Bruce Goldberg) who died in 2015 and whose death was also found amidst suspicious circumstances (Silicon Valley entrepreneur and late husband of Sheryl Sandberg, COO of facebook). His death was initially tied to a fall from a treadmill which resulted in severe head trauma and blood loss. But an autopsy report pointed to a heart arrhythmia that may have caused his fall.

While his death could have natural, though unfortunate, origins, it must be said that it is no longer a secret that there is a weapon aimed specifically to cause heart attacks in target individuals.

Remote Heart Attack Weapon: World Notice of Crimes Against Humanity Using Energy & Neuro/Bio Weapons

David Bruce Goldberg with wife Sheryl Sandberg

Prophetic warnings

One last thing to leave you with, Goldberg’s testimony about the information he received regarding Donald Trump specifically, is too accurate to ignore.

Here are a couple of eerie predictions that have come true – very shortly after the video was made.

Source: odysee | Anarcho Christian | “I am the chosen one.” – Trump

“Thank you to Wayne Allyn Root for the very nice words. “President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world… and the Jewish people in Israel love him…

like he’s the King of Israel. They love him like he is the second coming of God… But American Jews don’t know him or like him. They don’t even know what they’re doing or saying anymore. It makes no sense! But that’s OK, if he keeps doing what he’s doing, he’s good for….” Donald Trump, quoting Wayne Allyn Root

“Symbolic”, indeed…

Donald Trump’s father’s middle name is “Christ“.

Frederick Christ Trump

As for Donald Trump himself: “The first time the press mentioned Donald Trump’s name (the New York Times on January 28, 1973), there was no middle initial. He was simply “Donald Trump,” the brash son of Fred C. Trump. Ten months later, his middle initial premiered in another story, according to the paper. “Both versions were in play for a couple of months, before The Times settled on: “Donald J. Trump.” Oh, and the “J” stands for John.”Can You Guess the Middle Name of Every U.S. President?

Would it be a stretch of the imagination to surmise that the “J” could, instead, stand for something else “Christ” related?

That’s on top of everything that Goldberg has announced would happen. The deletion/censorship of youtube channels, targeted campaigns, release of a virus/infection, blackouts… And, of course, the culling of millions of Americans – being done now, in my belief, using covid as the reason. And the effort to do the rest of the countries at the same time. The vaccines, from several (if not thousands) of professional opinions, are just another part of the weapons; disguised as a beneficial product to help save us from “covid”.

Then a calling for a global one world government – which we can see happening especially with the World Economic Forum/Klaus Schwab’s “great reset” agenda.

It has all been happening. David Goldberg warned us of this in 2019. For those who say that an agenda (“conspiracy theory”) this huge could never happen because somebody would be speaking out about it or leaking it… well… what do you think David Goldberg and countless others have been doing this whole time?

Rudolf Steiner
Serge Monast
Pierre Gilbert
Texe Marrs
William Cooper
Brandy Vaughan
Scott Jensen
Michael Yeadon
Ronald Bernard
Celeste Solum
Jacques Attali
Catherine Austin Fitts
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Cheryl Eckard
etc., etc., etc.

Rudolf Steiner over a hundred years ago (1917) spoke of vaccines being used to affect people’s mentality.

Not to mention the straight up admission of some of these goals by the very organizations and individuals leading them:

“Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”David Rockefeller “Memoirs” | Confessions of a Rockefeller World Order

Instead of denying that anything nefarious can possibly be going on, simply because it’s too atrocious or “outrageous” for morally upright human beings to even consider – we should do our own responsibility by being correctly informed and not misled by the very same corrupt institutions that have infiltrated the news, religion, politics, education, finance, etc.

And possibly the biggest issue, is the very supposedly morally upright human beings doing NOTHING about it, or even worse, COMPLYING because it’s their “job” and/or the “authority figures” tell them they must enforce the ever-changing and growing ever-more-corrupt “laws”. If this system becomes implemented, it will be due to the fault of those “just doing my job”, and they will fall into the very same trap they are perpetuating.

I hope and pray that people around the world will wake up and realize the dystopian system they are inevitably creating unless they stand up and say “no” and not consent to following along with these immoral establishments.

God bless.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
Edmund Burke

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Dr. Reiner Fuellmich to Lead 1,000 Lawyers and Over 10,000 Medical Experts in Trials of Crimes Against Humanity

Reiner Fuellmich, with an extensive team of lawyers and doctors/scientists from around the world, are teaming up to address this widespread farce of the coronavirus/vaccine agenda that we have been thrust into.

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Dr Reiner Fuellmich begins Legal Litigation on the Covid-19 Fraud- The Greatest Crime Against Humanity

He and his team are uncovering the deception and depravity that a few private organizations have implemented upon the whole world in the guise of a global pandemic. Below is a transcript and video of a shortened interview highlighting some pertinent discussions between Reiner Fuellmich and his interviewer.

To watch the interview in full, please visit the following link: Reiner Fuellmich on suing the WHO

Transcript (embellishment added for emphasis and to highlight pertinent statements):

Reiner Fuellmich: “There cannot be any doubt, whatsoever, at least not for me, after having interviewed so many experts from all different fields of science. Um… doctors, virologists, epidemiologists, economists, lawyers, psychologists, psychiatrists – There cannot be any doubt whatsoever that what has been happening here for a year now, is, and I – when I first said this, some people kind of rolled their eyes and said, “Hey, nobody’s going to ever agree with you”, but this is the worst – these are the worst crimes against humanity EVER, ever committed.

We all know now, I mean, we should though, those ten or twenty percent of us who still have a brain to use and to think with, this has never been about the virus. This has never been about health. This has always been about taking everything away from us so that we would be dependent on them – Plus, population reduction, plus gaining complete control over those who are left.

That is… I wouldn’t have said this a year ago. A year ago if you would have asked me, or if somebody had told me this, I would have said, “Hey, you definitely need to see a doctor.”

But no, this is what all the evidence, all of the people who we interviewed on the corona committee, what this points to, there’s… this is the conclusion is inevitable.

If you, if you don’t have any symptoms, are you really going to go see a doctor? Just because of what this idiot Drosten says? What are you going to do? You’re going to go see a doctor – ‘I have something, I don’t know what it is, but can you help me? Please tell me what I’m suffering from.’

The first question the doctor’s going to ask you is, “What symptoms do you have?”

‘None.’

The Drosten-Corman, or the Corman-Drosten paper, the PCR test protocol, it is completely unscientific. And the second thing is, it looks as though it was done in such a sloppy way on purpose. For the sole purpose of producing as many false positives as possible, all over the world, so that their agenda, which ends with the so-called vaccinations, which of course we all know now doesn’t have anything to do with vaccinations. What we’re dealing with is genetic experiments.

In the end, the clean-up will take years. We’re hoping that this… it’s like an arm-wrestling that’s going on right now. That, as I said, we’re reaching, we’re about to reach the tipping point, I think. Because there’s so many mistakes that they’re making. Because I don’t think that the, all these adverse reactions to the vaccines are part of the plan. And that’s because they’re trying to rush this thing through. And I think what happened is they, we have a whistleblower –

And she told us that the original plan was to roll this out in 2050. But then those who are involved in this got greedy and pulled things forward to 2030, and then to 2020, and that’s why we think that’s why so many mistakes are happening.

‘Cause as I said, they did not really, I don’t think, and we don’t think, they did not really intend these adverse reactions to happen. And to warn even those people who are still, sort of in line with the government.”

Jerm Warfare: “Oh, but come on Reiner, you’re just a tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.”

Reiner: (laughs) “Yeah, well, the thing is, we have the evidence. I’m – this is, I know there’s some people out there who may not quite work with actual evidence. Well, it’s different with us. Because we have been speaking to all of these scientists and other people. Over a hundred in the meantime. It’s happening globally, but in the end, it may very well turn out that we’re going to have to have a special court because, maybe, there’s a lot pointing in that direction, maybe the national courts will not really be able to deal with this. Because this is such a – this is on such a magnitude, it’s so, it’s so big that it is very possible that we’re gonna eventually need to have something like Nuremberg 2.”

Jerm: “Who is “they” and who are the culprits? Or some of them at least?”

Reiner: “Um… what we’re dealing with is probably .00000 something 1 percent of the population trying to, trying to gain control over the rest of the world. Um, this is not about money, because this group of people, maybe 3,000, this group of people, they are the super rich, they have, in terms of financial assistance, they have much more than they need. They’re not gonna need to buy a tenth or a third yacht, or the twentieth maserati or whatever.

So this is not really about money. It IS about money because they’re using money in order to bribe people and the hospitals, the doctors, politicians. They’re also using all kinds of psychological techniques in order to manipulate people or they threaten people, many politicians, some of them may be threatened, some of them may be getting bribed. But it’s not really about money. They’re using money as a tool.

So what we think is their, what they’re really up to is… you have to keep in mind that the very same people we, a part of which we now call the Davos clique, you know, the self-appointed political elite and the self-appointed corporate elite, that is part of the people who we’re dealing with. And those are the ones who are responsible for the financial crisis some ten or twelve years ago. Had we been a little more careful, had we looked a little closer, we would have known that for thirty years this group of people has been stealing the tax-payers money all over the world.

The first financial crisis would have been the perfect chance for us to catch on to what’s going on. They managed to tell us that they have everything under control. They didn’t. But they started to print money in order to keep us quiet. We should’ve been… we should’ve known that you cannot print money in order to restore what they have stolen. It doesn’t make any sense. Well, this time around, in late 2019 I believe, when things were again coming to a head and things were, again, about to implode, they came up with corona as a diversionary tactic. And we have to keep in mind however, we’re not dealing with a monolithic wall on the other side. There’s lots of infighting, there’s contradicting interests, and that’s another one, another one of our chances that we have.

But you know, we spoke to another investment banker, another American investment banker, and she says the reason why Europe is at the center of all this, this is probably the most important battle ground in this whole war, is because Europe is completely, definitely, totally broke. The ECB is totally broke because they bought all this, all these bonds and papers that are totally, completely worthless. And, what’s even more important, the pension funds, they’re completely broke. Meaning, if people find out about this, that despite their spending so much money on their pensions, there’s nothing left, that’s all stolen. Then we’re going to have a real problem.” And that’s one of the reasons why they’re trying to get Europe under control, before people understand really what’s going on.

I think this is all about moral and ethics. It doesn’t really have much to do with the law. In fact, one of the people who we work with says, in a better world, which we probably will have once this is over, we won’t even need laws anymore because people will understand, because they all have a genetically, a kind of a built in censor for what is right and what is wrong. All of the laws that we have now are one-size-fits-all laws. These globalized laws in particular are made by people who are so far removed from the reality of people’s lives in their different regions, that these laws are practically useless. They’re using them in order to keep us under control. But in a better future, we will probably not need this, because if people are educated enough, talking about world competence again, everybody will know what they can do and what they can’t do. Or, people will, in their respective regions, agree on certain terms of how to live together. We won’t need these globalized laws anymore.”

Jerm: “Yeah, so in other words, there’s going to be a move, sort of towards sovereignty again.”

Reiner: “Yes. And back to the roots, so to speak. This globalism is what got us here. We ended up with global… what do you call them? What do you call the WHO, the World Economic Forum, these are private, global organizations which have taken control over the entire world. Private organizations run by the super rich. I think this is, once people understand this, it’s not going to be too hard, to turn the tables.

Would you buy a used car from Bill Gates or from Klaus Schwab? (interviewer laughs) I don’t think so. I mean, just look at him. These people cannot be trusted.

The most important thing is to just spread the information. Spread the truth. Spread the facts to as many people as possible. And, don’t waste your time on those people who are aggressively on the other side who really want to get vaccinated. I mean, it’s tragic, but we will not be able to save everyone. A lot of people will lose, not just their livelihoods but also their lives.

We’re… our hands are extended to them, so if they change their minds they’re always welcome to come aboard. But those ten or twenty percent of the population that I think we are, in the meantime, maybe more, maybe more people are beginning to ask questions; still wearing their mask because they don’t want to get in any trouble, but those ten or twenty percent of the population – we’re the ones who will turn the tables. And that’s why we have to focus on how can we do this best and that’s why we have to connect with each other.

Also, on a – this is surprising for me, but I think it makes sense, also on a spiritual level.

If we lose, that’ll be the end of humanity, we believe. I mean, if we lose, it means we, as human, lose to digitalism and to completely stark-raving mad people. That’s why we won’t lose. We CANNOT lose, because we MUST win.”

Jerm: “It seems like an incredibly difficult battle. I mean, just on a daily basis, nevermind what you’re dealing with – on a daily basis, I mean, it almost seems like it’s an impossible battle ahead.”

Reiner: “Yes, what they want us to believe. That’s why they invested so much money and so much effort into the mainstream media. But, as far as I can tell, if I look at Germany, it’s the reality is completely different from what they’re trying to make us believe. Whenever I, for example, need a cab in order to go someplace in Berlin or here in Goettingen, or any other place, I think I’ve spoken to at least a hundred cab drivers – almost all of them, one exception, that was last weekend, almost all of them, immediately tell me that of course they know this is stupid, that the mask is not doing anything, and they’re not just doing this intuitively, many of them are actually well-informed because they’re not watching public television. They’re watching – they’re getting their information from the new, from the independent, alternative media. The old media are pretty much dead.

Just like with every flu season, people get sick, people get seriously sick and some people die. And, but what happened in Italy, in Bergamo, for example, or in New York, is probably… this is the result of many of the doctors who we spoke with, Italian doctors, and people from New York, is probably more a result of malpractice than it is a result of the flu. Or the coronavirus, if you want to call it that.

But of course, none of us, we all agree there’s something out there, because if it weren’t then people wouldn’t get sick and people wouldn’t die. But as it turns out, the infection fatality rate of whatever is going on is no higher than that of a common flu. Even the WHO says that it’s .14% and that’s probably in line with the common flu. Even the newest study that I think was published a couple of days ago by John Ioannidis points to an infection fatality rate of .15%. So that’s still in line with the common flu.

There’s only .000 something 1 percent of the population trying to gain control over all of us. We are, if it is ten percent, we’re the best ones. I don’t want to be, I don’t want to sound arrogant in any way, but I think this is true. And the rest of the people, those who are falling in line, those who even want to get vaccinated, as I said earlier, it’s tragic but there’s nothing much we can do about it. They do not really play a role. It’s tragic, but we cannot save everyone. They don’t play a role for the other side, at all. You know? The only role they play for them, is that of cannon fodder and guinea pigs.

Jerm: “What can you recommend, what do you suggest people do – I mean let’s be pragmatic here for a second. What can people do to change things?”

Reiner: “The most important thing is, as I said, to get as much information as possible to spread it as far as possible, and I think that’s only possible if as many people as possible connect, worldwide. ‘Cause that gives a certain strength which goes far beyond that of the ability to exchange information. I think this is, even though it may sound stupid, this is strength on a very spiritual level. I’m not a religious person, but I have come to believe, I have come to believe that, um, there is more… there are different levels of awareness beyond the rational stuff.

I just spoke to a friend who, an American, whose son never got vaccinated. Which is totally, completely unheard of in the United States. Because they get dozens of vaccinations – they’re the most vaccinated people in the world. And she says, and there are other people in her family who made sure that their kids didn’t get vaccinated either, and she says, ‘My child, he is eighteen years old now, my child has certain sensibilities which most other people don’t have. And even if I see him in a group of people, he seems different. It’s almost as though there’s a light shining.” So, what I’m trying to tell you is, there is a level of cooperation which goes beyond the rational idea of cooperation and this is, has to do with spirituality, and I think that’s why it’s so important to connect.”

Jerm: “There’s a crystal ball in front of you, Reiner, what do you see?”

Reiner:I see a much better world at the end of this tunnel. There is a light at the end of this tunnel. And that’s a much better world because most of the things that we have come used to, our way of life, is very destructive. Both on a personal level and on a global level. There’s too much injustice and there’s too many people trying to take advantage of other people. That will change. That’s the light at the end of the tunnel I can see. It probably also has to do with my legal hero, his name – he’s a former Supreme Court justice, of the United States Supreme Court, his name is Louis Brandeis, a hundred years ago, he took on 2 monstrous, large industries, the financial industries and the oil industry and he said, because they were trying to cover everything up, he said, “Sunlight is the best of disinfectant.” and that is still true today. So the light at the end of the tunnel is the sunlight that we need in order to see what’s going on and change things for the better.

It’s been working already. There has been progress. You have to look at the bright side. There has been progress. Because more and more people are beginning to wonder. That in itself is progress. We’re winning some of the court battles. We will win many more. Many people are connected to each other as you said, who would never have believed – I would never have believed that I would be speaking to you, for example. That I would be having fun speaking to you. Some of the people, some of the lawyers who we work with, are just great people. Not those idiot lawyers who you wish didn’t exist, but really good people who are not in it for the money, but who are in it for the cause. And so many other people from all walks of life, which, and it tells me that I wasted my time, when, for example, I went to dinner parties, small talking all the time. That was a waste of time. I’m never ever going to do that again.”

Jerm: “Maybe one day, history will look back on us fondly.”

Reiner: “I think so. Absolutely.”

A huge thank you to Dr. Reiner Fuellmich, the interviewers, and the thousands of partners working to expose this egregious scheme. And thank you to those who are waking up and helping to spread this message. God bless you all.

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